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6/28/2019 8:06:07 PM
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The Community and Raids

I'd Sherpa anyone using any gun

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Good Luck with that

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I'd like to learn

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Hi Everybody, I'm not sure this is the correct place to put this, but I wanted to address an issue about raiding and the community. Earlier I read a disheartening thread where a fellow player mentioned that their raiding experiences since Destiny 2 release have not been as fun or as good as they were in Destiny 1. They mentioned that it was the mechanics of the raids, but after reading their statements it sounds more like a lack patience on their teacher's part that made the raid more difficult than it needed to be. This brings up a greater overall issue with the community. I'm not sure there is a dedicated spot for people to go where they want to learn the raid through hands on experience. A lot of the fireteams created for raiding have requirements like the participants are applying for a job. I remember in Destiny 1 you could go to a streamer or another person and put together a raid while carrying the worst guns, because your teacher was willing to spend time teaching you. I do want to mention that I am not speaking against having requirements for raids. If someone wants to create a fireteam and they have an idea for who they want on their team, then your fireteam members should fit that idea. It keeps people from getting frustrated and makes sure that newer raiding members steer clear of an environment where they will probably not be welcome. So, please, if you are looking for people with X thing then do keep adding those requirements. But there aren't many people out there just looking to help people get experience and completions with the raid. So, if you are reading this and want to learn the raid here is what I recommend. First, make sure you are 721 light. It just makes everything easier if your enemies aren't killing you faster while you are learning. Second, find a teacher and not just a raid guide. A lot of people learn better through first hand experience. If you need a teacher I am willing to teach Crown of Sorrows to anyone, just message me, reply to this thread -shrugs-, send a pigeon, and we can coordinate a time. Unfortunately I'm only on PSN right now, but next season I'll be on PC too. Third, and this is the most important part, be clear about what you need. If you are with a teacher and they say something that confuses you, wait until they finish and ask for clarification or for them to explain it differently. Don't place blame, but do ask for clarification, we all think and learn differently. For Sherpas, I think we need to make sure that the learners know we are out there. I currently have only sherpa-ed fellow clan members for the past couple of years, but I love teaching new raids. We also need to be aware that the same teaching method doesn't work for everyone, just because you explained something doesn't mean they understood. Be patient and understand that a teaching raid doesn't always get a completion, and that's ok. You can try again and they'll know more than they did before. The community is so focused on what guns are the best, and what is the optimal way to _____ that they forget some people just want to sit back and relax with their friends. Raids are end game content, but they are also something that a more casual player definitely has the skills to do.

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  • A few weeks ago I explained to a guy that I maintained that I could make a raider out of anyone who was willing to listen and learn. Generally when I meet someone (outside of LFG) who hasn't done a specific raid that wants to I give them pretty loose instructions: these are the weapon types recommended. For example for Scourge: you're going to want a decent sniper or scout rifle, a decent shotgun or fusion rifle, and whatever exotic makes you happy. That is your homework this week. On reset, come hell or high water, we're going to get you there. There are three types of people that aggravate me to no end: 1) the guy who 'knows what to do' but keeps messing up mechanics instead of taking the time to learn. We can spend 3 minutes learning or an hour failing. 2) the guy who talks over me when I'm teaching. I will give you one warning to shut up and then I will kick you. I have someone patiently trying to learn this raid and I will not have you impeding them. 3) the guy who blames everyone else for wiping when it's his fault. These three types of people ruin the fun of the game. Thank God for the 'boot from fireteam' button 👍

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