There already has been a poll about this in one of these topics you mention, about 60% here think it's ok for timers to exist, and about 40% think not, (but keep in mind the forum is hardly an unbiased place, since mostly dedicated destiny players are here, inclining the scale to the hardcore portion of gamers). I'll give you an example: i'm the leader of a clan of about 20 people, and from those, only 5 don't mind the timer, and those 5 don't oppose removing it, (unlike here, that people defend the timer like if it was some ultimate achievement, which is not), the other 15 dislike the timer, me included.