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You need to give Bungie a break. The outbreak prime quest is alot of fun. So many spawns for adds. It was truly fun. And awesome to find 2 other randoms that try and try again. Can I say the stupid walkers .their sheilds took 4ever. Kudos bungie You brought a fireteam back.
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  • ...and the people that I play with, didn't come back. In fact only THREE people that I know who were even sufficiently leveled enough to do the content, bothered to show up. So now I have a significant barrier to the content that I now have to find a way to overcome.

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  • Oh no in order to be high enough light level to gain access to Endgame activity's you actually have... *gasp* play the game!?!

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 5/8/2019 4:04:42 PM
    No. You have to play EVERY PART of the game....whether you want to or not. NO other loot-based game in the last 20 years has been this arrogantly---and stupidly---designed. Take The Division 2 If I want to level up to Gear Score 500....I can play ANY part of the game I want. I can grind open world activities---that game's equivalent of public events. I can grind story missions at increased difficulty. I play the weekly INvaded missions and strongholds. I can run bounties. I can play PVP. I can grind the Dark Zone. THE GAME GIVES ME THE FREEDOM TO PLAY IT ANYWAY I WANT. TO PLAY ONLY THE PARTS I ENJOY PLAYING....and rewards me with power and progress. Now the harder teh content I play...the more loot I get and the better the loot I get. But EVERYTHING is progression relevant. ...and stays progression relevant as long as you choose to play it. What Massive doesn't do is treat me like a -blam!-ing FIVE year-old...and lead me around by the hand to every part of the game and tell me "You need to play some of this"...or you don't get to progress. Like I'm a child being told that I can't have dessert unless I eat the Brussel sprouts that I HATE. ...and then PUNISH me (by withholding that progress) if I refuse to comply. THAT is the reason why people are complaining that the game feels like a chore to play...and its why people are LEAVING this game to go play other games (Like The Division 2) that are more enjoyable and treat the player with greater respect. I haven't needed a baby sitter in 40 years...and I'll be damned if I'm going to PAY Bungie in my time and money to treat me like I still need one.

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  • Lol, seriously? I have only been playing Crucible and some Gambit and I'm at 690+, if you want to level up FAST they have given many different OPTIONS to do so. You need to stop whining just because you can't farm one activity and expect to be max light level

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  • No, they haven’t. Try grinding pub events or the strike play list and see how BRUTALLY long it will take you to level up. Especially if you aren’t logging in everyday and can leverage Prime Engrams. This entire system is designed around using access to progression to strong arm the player into populating the parts the game BUNGIE wants, and punishing you if you stay too long in any one part other than raids or pvp.

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  • If someone is constantly slapping me in the face I wont forgive them for everything for the one time they dont slap me and give me a piece of candy instead to distract me from the slapping. One fancy exotic quest wont make me forget or forgive. The issue stands.

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  • Edited by Necrogen: 5/8/2019 3:47:45 PM
    Except that's not happening to you. You're being a drama queen. The game is designed as such. If you don't like it, stop playing it. [i] you[/i] are in control of [i] you.[/i] respect your time and yourself and play a different game. Also here's a solution to your cores problem : [i]dismantle them[/i] there. No more issues for you. Have fun.

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  • I believe your solution is not a valid one for bettering the game. And though I value input and responses I believe ad hominem is not a valid way to argue. Thank you though for offering some sort of input, however much value it may have had.

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  • Edited by Necrogen: 5/8/2019 4:12:10 PM
    Oh spare me. Your [i]solution[/i] is for Bungie to back down from their [i]own[/i] game and do what you want. That's [i]not a solution.[/i] at least with my suggestion cores are out of sight out of mind. The lot of you won't need advice on how to overcome your light level issue / masterworking so what is anyone to say or do?

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  • I am not asking them to back down from their own game, I am asking them to revert back to a previous system they them selves had implemented and was working without issue. The current system is preventing new and returning players from playing freely, from playing how they want, and use the gear they want. This isnt how the game used to work. In comparison to how much freedom we had in choosing the gear and guns we wanted to take with us before versus now and how much punishment we receive for it, in the form of being locked away from using useful gear with perks and rolls that benefit us just because its too low light, it is clear this system is inferior to the previous in creating a better gaming experience. They themselves had a working system, Master Working used cores and a lot people did it for their gear, while infusion didnt break the bank and people could have fun trying out different load outs in all higher light activities. This new system doesnt let you do both if you are a new/returning player, and even if you dont find an issue with it doesnt mean others dont and that the issue isnt real. One system they created worked better than the other and the problem is they wont fix the one that isnt working best.

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  • If I don't find it an issue, prove what needs to be done and advise how to maintain cores, it would [i]still be a problem.[/i] The answer is not in dealing with it and showing the solution. It's the ego. It's removing them. This path is ignorant. You all need to back down. [i][u]if and when[/u][/i] the devs open up for suggestions that's when these posts should come back. They said over 10x no plans in removing cores. There are more pressing issues in the game that need attention.

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  • How the hell can you claim in one breath it’s not an issue because it doesn’t impact you and in the next decry the egos of those calling for change in this, the second 4000+ comment thread explaining the problem and why removal is the best solution. Get off your high horse and read some effing explanations. You are the only one here demonstrating an over-inflated ego. If you aren’t prepared to check your bias and think critically then go back under your bridge and stay out of the way of this conversation.

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  • Yea you can back the hell down because if you actually [i]follow[/i] this thread, you'd see I had many suggestions, discussions and arguments since this thread started. Yes those that are [i]still[/i] arguing have an ego and need to stop. They said [i]no.[/i] no one here wants to adhere to suggestions and accept or respect bungies decision. There is no meaningful discussion as now it's just people repeating over and over their misplaced discontent. [i]enough already.[/i] get off [i][b][u]your[/u][/b][/i] high horse and kick rocks.

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  • I will restate my and many other peoples desire on this. Cores should be removed only from infusion. If cores return to only be used for Masterworking then no changes need to be made into how often and how many cores we are receiving currently from activities. In my opinion, the Core flow is Sufficient as it is now for one of the two, Masterworking OR Infusion. Not both. Adding more sources to grind for one core at a time is not a solution to keeping Cores for both systems. Removing cores from infusion will make masterwking relevant again, and possible for many more. That is my hill, and I so have chosen to die on it.

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  • And you'll "die" for nothing. They closed the "issue".

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  • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve head worse reasons to die for.

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  • You must have a very bleak life

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  • When life is going well enough that I can balance going to work, going to school, and finding time to relax with games, finding a few seconds or minutes to respond here or put my opinion into the issue with Cores is almost effortless. I lose no sleep from half baked responses or insults mascaraded as arguments I have received before. Constructing an argument for my opinion and adding it to the discussion is all I wish to do. I care for this games, the players I have met, and mostly what great potential the game has if Bungie would understand our position in all of this. So far the only Bleak Life here is the one Destiny currently has.

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