If you think The Division 2 has no end-game, then you simply have no idea HOW to play a loot-based game. The Divsion 2 actually has one of the deepest, most carefully crafted end-games that I've seen int he last 20 years.

It really doesn't. You can make a ton of builds great.. buttttt there is no reason for them. Same problem division 1 had. It's literally the same game copied and pasted with some minor tweaks. In a few weeks everything you've grinded up will be utterly useless and you'll have to re farm the same crap all over again to get the same crap for the same builds.

Still waiting for the raid....

Wasn't that supposed to be out a while ago? I got bored of doing the same repetitive crap and quit for a while

Original release date was April 25th, just a few days ago. Now it's been set back into May. I'm guessing You quit playing around level 30 huh? TD2 has some of the best combat AI I've seen. As per your "regrinding content" argument.... Have You ever played Destiny 😉

1. No reason that is relevant TO YOU. You don't speak for me or my experience of playing the game. 2. See my prior post. You simply have no idea what you are looking at. The Division 2 is one of the best loot-based RPGs/Open world RPGs to have been made in the last 10 years. So good that it is now the industry standard for "Live game-as-service" rather than a floundering Destiny 2 and Bungie. We can't get Bungie to deal with us honestly on a simple matter like Cores and other basic issues....while Massive is currently running a Player Test Server where they are letting their PC players test their next planned update, and are taking feed back on improvments....which they LONG AGO established a track record of acting upon. Usually with a turnaround time of less than a month. 3. [quote]n a few weeks everything you've grinded up will be utterly useless and you'll have to re farm the same crap all over again to get the same crap for the same builds.[/quote] IOW, how every OTHER loot based game works. Part of the problem that Bungie has created for themselves.....and is trying to fix with cores..... ....is that they are letting people DRAG YEARS worth of loot behind them, and they don't have the BALLS to simply RESET THE GAME. YOU HAVE to do this because that is where your ability to create NEW loot comes from, and where a lot of the replayability of a game like this comes from. But instead Bungie took the shortcut last year of trying to band-aid a broken loot system....by having people grind for pinnacle weapons. But one that led to people being invested in keepign those weapons. Which made Bungie unwilling to force a hard reboot fo teh game going into Year 2. So now you have a game where people are dragging around all this old gear....and since Bungie lacks the courage to tell us that we can't use it any mroe and cant level it up any further..... ...they just add cores to the game, and pry the stuff out of our hands by denying us the resources to level them up. But at the cost of forcing the game into having to be played in a very narrow , rigid, and unsatisfying way. Like I said. Bungie is the outlier here. They have NO -blam!-ING idea what they're doing....and they're trying to make it up as they go along. Instead of learning from the successes....and failures....of those companies who DO know how to do this right. Like Massive was humble (and smart) enough to do.

[quote]1. No reason that is relevant TO YOU. You don't speak for me or my experience of playing the game. 2. See my prior post. You simply have no idea what you are looking at. The Division 2 is one of the best loot-based RPGs/Open world RPGs to have been made in the last 10 years. So good that it is now the industry standard for "Live game-as-service" rather than a floundering Destiny 2 and Bungie. We can't get Bungie to deal with us honestly on a simple matter like Cores and other basic issues....while Massive is currently running a Player Test Server where they are letting their PC players test their next planned update, and are taking feed back on improvments....which they LONG AGO established a track record of acting upon. Usually with a turnaround time of less than a month. 3. [quote]n a few weeks everything you've grinded up will be utterly useless and you'll have to re farm the same crap all over again to get the same crap for the same builds.[/quote] IOW, how every OTHER loot based game works. Part of the problem that Bungie has created for themselves.....and is trying to fix with cores..... ....is that they are letting people DRAG YEARS worth of loot behind them, and they don't have the BALLS to simply RESET THE GAME. YOU HAVE to do this because that is where your ability to create NEW loot comes from, and where a lot of the replayability of a game like this comes from. But instead Bungie took the shortcut last year of trying to band-aid a broken loot system....by having people grind for pinnacle weapons. But one that led to people being invested in keepign those weapons. Which made Bungie unwilling to force a hard reboot fo teh game going into Year 2. So now you have a game where people are dragging around all this old gear....and since Bungie lacks the courage to tell us that we can't use it any mroe and cant level it up any further..... ...they just add cores to the game, and pry the stuff out of our hands by denying us the resources to level them up. But at the cost of forcing the game into having to be played in a very narrow , rigid, and unsatisfying way. Like I said. Bungie is the outlier here. They have NO -blam!-ING idea what they're doing....and they're trying to make it up as they go along. Instead of learning from the successes....and failures....of those companies who DO know how to do this right. Like Massive was humble (and smart) enough to do.[/quote] Lol you have problems with cores but all that talk of division 2 I would think simple cores wouldn't be a problem.i didn't read all of your post but from what I did,seems like you simply dislike Bungie.

LOL. You do realize that you're talking to someone that people used to call "Head of the Bungie Defense Force" right? I don't dislike Bungie...I'm MAD at Bungie right now, because Bungie is doing something incredibly stupid and desperate. Something that is endangering the long-term health of a game that I've poured a LOT of my time into. The intensity of my anger is because I care about what happens to this game. I've got far better things to do with my time than to show up online and shit all over a developer just because I don't "like" them. ...and if you didn't read all of my post then you really have NO idea what I think and why I think it. Later.

I'm just telling you the truth about the division. A game you are clearly inexperienced in. In a few weeks everything you have will be useless and you'll be grinding literally the same old crap to get the same old gear to create the same old builds that you'll have to repeat that process again after a few more weeks... that's how they keep people playing in that game. Kinda why mtashed was calling for an infusion system in that game after his first taste of many of getting his builds completely wiped. Imagine if destiny just made your gear meaningless and you had to re grind for the same crap to make the same builds. The playerbase can't handle 0-3 cores they definitely wouldn't be able to handle that. The prior post had nothing to do with the division 2... this is just like yesterday... you being completely lost rambling about nonsense. ..... PTS servers are pretty standard for ubisoft........ it's very apparent you've never played division 1 or any other ubisoft game. That server lag though yikes I see they still haven't fixed that crap since division 1. It's borderline game breaking and has been a complaint since the first title 🤷‍♂️ it also plagues siege. Wish they would fix their servers its been literal years. Cores do fix the problem.... you literally infuse up the gear you spent hours grinding for instead of spending more hours re grinding the same gear to repeat that process again and again at later dates. People are still running the same meta builds in division 2 that were meta at launch. Division 1 was the same way. It's not about having balls that game literally wastes more time then cores ever will by forcing you to re grind the same activities you've done 1000x over for slightly better gear score that gives you like 2k extra armor and like 1k extra damage. Ubisoft doesn't really know what they are doing either. Maybe you should try watching a state of the game live stream. Idk why you keep going on about massive either when it's literally ubisoft running the show. But...... that kinda shows how little you know 😊

[quote]I'm just telling you the truth about the division. A game you are clearly inexperienced in[/quote] ROFLMAO. You really just have no idea who you're talking to do you? ...and no idea WTF you're talking about. I am a DAY ONE Division 1 player who was as hardcore into that game as I have been into Destiny. The reason why The Division 2 is the game it is is because Massive was willing to learn....and people like me stayed and fought for that game and was willing to teach Massive the kind of game that we wanted to play. ...and all the time that I used to play Destiny 2 and am not putting into this game amymore? Where do you think that time is going? RIGHT!! I'm spending it playing The Division 2. So don't lecture me on either one of those games, you don't have a damn thing to teach me...and you don't know WTF you're talking about. ...and you had the misfortune of pulling this stunt on someone who knows enough to call you on the nonsense you're talking. Stop wasting my time.

I know all about the division. I played the life out of the first one which you clearly did not. What does massive do with the game? Thr devs are ubisoft, the community managers are ubisoft, the servers are ubisoft.... soooo whats massive do again? 🤔 You found another game to play. Oh me oh my it happens. It's not a new concept. I play a lot of siege. What stunt? You have no clue what you are talking about. You've made that blatantly apparent.

Kid. I've got 40 years of gaming experience....and 20 years of experience playing loot-based games. Its very clear talking to you that you don't know shit about game design...and you have NOTHING to teach me about gaming. . So please. Stop. Wasting. My. Time.

Kid 🤣 first sign someone is losing an argument. I'm definitely no kid. 40 years and you complain like a 6 year old? Jesus. You never answered my question..... typical. 😊

Oh dear. I was actually doing you a favor by assuming that the level of immaturity that I was seeing was coming from an actual child. Shit, you're old enough to know better. I didn't answer your question because in my 51 years I've learned that Its a waste of my time to try to reason with someone who is committed to being irrational. To try to argue fact and principle to someone who is coming from a place of pure ego, emotion and identity. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religious beliefs. A giant waste of time. So---once again----act like the grown up you claim to be and stop wasting my time. You. Know. NOTHING....and are too stubborn to admit that you know nothing.

Only one being immature here is you. Might want to look into a mirror and maybe act your age? From what i've seen with all your posts you clearly have a problem with that. In your 51 years you learned to avoid questions that prove you are wrong 🤣 that's all that is. I'm losing a fight quick let's name call 😂😂😂 6 year olds these days i tell ya.

Like I said. Waste of time. Muted.

[quote]For about a week......... then you are left with 0 end game which results in 0 desire to play... same problem division 1 had. It's a fun concept of a game just has no purpose.[/quote] Sounds kind of like gathering boughs (which are relatively useless) for the 1000th time.