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Continued Enhancement Core and Mod Component Discussion

Hey all, A few weeks back, we talked about Enhancement Cores coming from Gunsmith bounties in the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/47706]TWAB[/url]. I wanted to give a quick update on this, as it also involves Mod Components, which have been a topic of discussion as well. Please note- this is all still in development for Season of Opulence, and could change. [quote]• Originally announced in the TWAB, these bounties would cost Gunsmith materials. This has been changed to Glimmer. • There will be multiple daily bounties to complete, each rewarding one enhancement core and two mod components • There will be two weekly bounties to complete. These will each grant one enhancement core, one mod (Weapon or Armor), and other materials or reputation/rank points depending on the objective of the bounty. • Note: When I say rank points, think Valor or Infamy, **not** Glory.[/quote] The team is continuing to evaluate feedback over mod components, enhancement cores, and rewards all up. Thank you for the continued feedback. We'll give you updates as we have them.
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  • Edited by Guardian6370: 5/6/2019 4:02:04 PM
    Oh look another day when the numbers drop , and yet Bungie stays silent 2 weekends in a row the numbers have been really bad , last week Bungie hide the numbers for few days Wonder will they do same this week https://destinytracker.com

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    • Not gonna lie. I’m more interested in you reducing the cost of buying gun smith guns, integrating the whole loot pool in powerful engrams, and re introducing the gunsmith bounties for weapons from destiny 1 🤷‍♂️ Also wth is up with clan engrams?! Getting a vanguard piece of equipment from completing raids with clan mates is unacceptable!

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      • Edited by Guardian6370: 5/6/2019 8:03:31 AM
        So it looks like I’m right , no one from Bungie is even reading this feedback , they have just kept this post pinned to stop the forums being flooded with remove cores . Because if they were we should have had a reply or 2 in here . even something like the usual reply saying we still passing on feedback is better than nothing.how can we expect them to join in the conversation when they don’t even read the feedback. bungie is not listening This is what Bungie thanks of their customers

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      • "Continued discussion" lol You're not discussing anything. Just giving the plebs somewhere to vent in the hope you keep it contained here...

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      • The drop rate for cores skyrocketed this season. I've got 6 characters at max and today is the first time all season I've had less than 20 cores. If you're constantly out of them then you're bad at resource management. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Don't get me wrong, I was on team "cores must die" but the problem is solved now. Any infusion I've wanted to make since March has been delayed by glimmer, maybe, and that's an easy solve.

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        • Tired of live service games, just release a game that is good at release instead of it being good when you decide to finish making it, or if you finish it at all. Take your time and do a proper 4 years of development time for the next game plz.

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          • They’re stupid

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          • I'm GLAD that bungie is keeping enhancement cores as infusion in the game. All you soft snowflakes need to realize that you paid to play a game. You are NOT entitled to demand changes. This is exactly why games fail. People think developers should make games the way people want. That's not how business works. If you dont like the way the game is. Simply dont freaking play the game anymore or make your own damn game. The Coalition is a developer that makes Gears of War. They dont listen to their community. They make the game THEY want and make the tweaks THEY want. They are doing JUST fine AND they are an eSports mainstay like Call of Duty.. To me. THATS a success.. Bungie got too caught up with the power of numbers that it hurt their franchise.. Now they are trying to go back to their roots. The 1st process is getting rid of these snowflakes

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            • Yeah well keep your fkn cores and your game. Looking forward to E3 so i can pick a game and move on.

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              • Don't cave to the casuals! #saveourcores

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                • Keep Enhancement Cores. Remove Destiny 2.

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                  • @DeeJ_BNG You and your devs need to watch this youtu.be/L3BoUflQPng. This guy captures all your issues and provides valuable insight how to fix issues without ruining weapons/classes like you have done in the past. Also take a look at this recent video from lucky https://youtu.be/fdIzWNfVRgI. I want you to focus on two things, first the lack of overall play in gambit and second the feedback from the spoof account about trials. There was so much positive feedback, the first in a while yet you still sit on your hands

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                  • Remove cores from infusion. Now. There are people asking for the removal of Crucible. To you I say this... Bungie: we hear your feedback about removing Crucible. We are removing Crucible for good, you will never see it again. Because we at Bungie want a PvP mode we have create Melting Pot. Here you will battle each other to prove the best among you! Every exotic quest will require countless hours of Melting Pot, which will enrich your Destiny experience. In Melting Pot, you will be able to enjoy some awesome new modes! There is Padlockdown, Mine!, Dominate You, Fight!, Not quite out yet, I am Supreme, and our favorite Trials of the None. Enhancement cores are gone too. Gone. Infusion now costs 100k glimmer, 77 legendary shards, and 777 planetary essence which replaces the materials. Battle on guardians!

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                    • It appears that in regards to this discussion, Bungie is playing the role of the watchers from Marvel comics.

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                    • 4000+ You need to say something

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                    • Edited by Mr Jim Lahey: 5/5/2019 9:25:06 PM
                      After a year off destiny and I return to quests that require PvP play to earn exotics? Destiny PvP is really bad and not fun to play imo Especially with RNG bloom

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                    • Give me a option for armor or weapon for a reward. I got countless weapons with God rolls but my armor is shiet. I cannot score enough good armor. Prime is good for my lock but my hunter armor is lacking

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                    • The reason there is silence is because Bungie is counting on the stages of grief. They hope the community will move to acceptance so Bungie can keep moving forward with their craptastc plans. They also like the hype, even bad hype is still hype. My suggestion, dial down the emotion and ramp up the critical feedback. Keep it flowing. Show Bungie we the Community will not accept their awful plans.

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                      Nah won't even pick up the bounties they already drop too frequently relax people they are easy to get

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                    • [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251978698?sort=0&page=0]Enhancement Core Discussion! Gather Up![/url] TLDR: Bounties are lack luster along with the other options to obtain cores. would you not rather them be added to loot pools of activities you would enjoy? we can all agree cores are easy to obtain. my method uses more of the game giving the player more freedom and of course, you could grind to your hearts content all the while respecting your time. [b]~~~~~~~~~~~~~[/b] the Community has a Big issue with Enhancement Cores(Not Masterwork Cores). I decided to break down a few "walls" Gaming companies use to either Expand the grind or "milk" you of money so you understand what exactly is going on here. 1) The first[b][u] Pay Wall[/u][/b] we are all aware of. they are called DLC or Subscription based Games. you must pay for the content or be locked out. We don't necessarily have an issue with this Type of Paywall. 2) The [u][b]Patience Wall[/b][/u] is when we are locked out of content for a certain amount of time. there was a quest I believe in D1 where you had to wait until Arms-day(Twice) to progress further in the First Curse Quest to obtain the sister of the Last Word. Idk about you but I didn't favor that model at all. it is also expressed in our new Annual Pass witch is a bit less "punishing" I would say. still most players would rather have a traditional DLC Expansion. 3) The [u][b]Pressure Wall[/b][/u] is used constantly in Destiny. they are most prevalent in Everse. For example I never got the ornament for The Thorn even though it looked liked a beauty. This pressures the player into spending money for an illusion of a limited time offer. in reality they do not need to be limited because it is just a code....the code for that ornament is just deactivated. This is also done with engrams. if you want good rolls for the everse armor you are "Pressured" into spending money. This is also evident when they increased the Exp. Required to level for engrams. First it was snuck in so nobody noticed and then they "Fix" it by doubling the exp. needed to further incentivize paying for engrams. [b]Can you guess witch method is being used when it comes to Enhancement Cores?[/b] you Guessed it! [u]The Patience Wall.[/u] The main way to obtain Enhancement cores is to do [u]Weekly/Daily [/u]Spider[u] Bounties[/u](what a chore, am I right?) and next season we will also have Gunsmith Bounties that provide Enhancement cores. The Patience wall is used to limit how fast we can infuse our gear and try out Certain Builds. This Method goes against what makes a looter shooter fun and is driving away players. in any other game(warframe as an example), they are not limiting how many Times you can FARM for a Resource. This is Respecting the players time. Especially those who do not play as often as the Hardcore players. If you are asking me I honestly think this type of wall being used in Destiny 2, in regards to enhancement cores, is [u]Lazy Game Design[/u] that extends the grind in a needless way. when knew content drops we all look like cabbage patch kids because we lack the cores to infuse our gear. it is really harsh on newer players. some of you will say that is not the only way. the examples given are 1) [u]Master-weave Cubes [/u]witch I don't have an issue with. they are very scarce and not easy to accumulate aka Not very Farmable. 2) [u]Legendary Drops.[/u] the legendary drops give you a chance at Cores. many of you may not realize it but this is considered a Double RNG Wall in my point of view. not really a great farming method. 3)[u]Curated roll Drops.[/u] They are hard to come by and offer 7 cores if dismantled. again that is not really FARM-able. can you now see how Bounties is a Hinderance as oppose to a fun way of Infusing your Gear? and the other options don't sound soo Enticing. What I am suggesting is to make us [u][b]Capable of Farming Enhancement Cores[/b][/u]. now for some strange coin of a reason some players argue that it would make Enhancement cores [b][u]EASY to Obtain[/u][/b]. I am asking you, the Players, to tell me how is a Bounty that limits how many cores you can obtain within a day/week HARD? If you want a reference to what hard is please take a look at Sekiro/warframe. In those Games hard is determined by how skilled you are at completing a task. in Destiny for some players Hard means Being [u][b]UNABLE TO FARM[/b][/u] a certain Material. In my eyes that is completely Flawed. My suggestion would be to do what a normal Grinding game would do witch is allow us to Farm "Challenging Activities" for the CHANCE at enhancement cores. what I am suggesting Respects both Bungie's time and the player's time. We get to visit old content that would other wise be irrelevant and have a good time while using the Magical world Destiny has Provided for us. For Example. Escalation Protocol, Blindwell, and The Reckoning( of course the raids...chill lol) could be Amazing places to add Enhancement cores to the Loot Pool. if you feel like they are too easy bungie could increase the Difficulty like they do with Strikes. Option one is normal so you could farm for the Gear you are looking for while Hard Mode allows you to farm for the gear and for the chance at Enhancement cores. You may be wondering about the New players. How will they get to infuse their Gear? I would suggest For them to revamp The Lost Sectors. make it so they have a difficulty option like strikes. you can even add more yellow bars too defeat. obviously the Drop rate can be tweaked for the appropriate activities. Bungie could even incentivize Fireteams of 2(Max for lost sectors) for an increased chance of the Drop Rate for Enhancement Cores. [u]Consider this a Step in the right Direction. [/u][b]Does this not sound far more enticing than the limited Bounty Method we have now?[/b] it kills two birds with one stone. the world is used to it fullest while still keeping the players engaged. as it stands now most of us are Holding Cores for next season because we want to by pass that PatienceWall. I am all for the hardcore players and with my Heart of Hearts I would say this would be a change that is more than welcomed. the question is will bungie ever do it? many people voiced their disdain towards the Sonic Movie and The directors decided to Fix it. why can't we stick to our guns and make the change happen here in our beloved world too?

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                      • Everyone is overthinking this. On one hand removal isn’t a bad option. Cores would go where they should, masterworking items. On the other people will max out gear quite quickly, leading to boredom (remember CoO? That had more content than Season of the Drifter!) Solutions are the worst part of this conversation. Bungie wants quests, etc. to keep players engaged. Players would rather do more meaningful content. So let’s do it like this: keep cores. Remove quests and milestone core rewards. Make all legendary gear guarantee at least one core when dismantled. I believe that should make everyone a little happier; Bungie can focus on content and lore and we will have more cores than we know what to do with by actually playing said content.

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                        • Has the discussion started yet? Just curious.

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                          • Does the bungie team look at technical issues or have you got no employees for that because it seems like anything that can't be fixed by turning a knob is being ignored and has been from day one. Will there ever be EU servers or will they forever be located in America only so everyone not from there will have to enjoy 150+ ms latency. It feels kinda disingenuous that this isn't stated anywhere and the illusion of regions in the battlenet launcher only has to do with the social region of the game. I'm just disappointed..

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                          • Edited by slayerserenity: 5/5/2019 1:24:34 AM
                            Why the Mods don’t work? I put all super ability or super charge mods and I don’t see my guardians super charging fast at all in any activity

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                          • From a Development point of few it tools weeks to implement cores. Throwing away cores means time was wasted and someones ego goes down the bin.

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