In gambit it really does the job against invaders due to sustained accurate fire at any range.. I dont play pvp much so I dont get into the build for it, I'm sure I could, I'd do fine. But not on a cqb map with a scout. It does beat all those regularly in medium to long range and once they close to close range, if they make it, perfect paradox. Anyways, I dont really care how you feel. What I like about the gun has nothing to do with crucible, so, telling everyone what they can look up themselves if they thought it mattered, isnt going to change how I feel about it. More or less its ridiculously good at pve, literally dont have to switch guns. And for medium and long range pvp, it does well enough to be used tactically and shouldnt be considered obsolete. I'm sure there are other scouts even better at this role, but I havent had a good roll on any of them. Think what you want, but if you cant dominate with a scout rifle...you probably forgot to[spoiler]git guuuuud[/spoiler] I didnt forget, I just didnt care to, and still dont. Continue pouring over my extensive 3 game record of pvp...I'm sure you discern the future stock prices too.