D1 yr 3, the "best" Destiny according to these forums popular opinion. It had a million daily players most of the year. At the end they dropped far more than that. Ar the end of the year? You know there's a PvE focused update just around the quarter right? They also hinted at another expansion. You do me a favor and let me know when they plan on shutting down the servers. This franchise will eventually run its course but I don't think that'll be any time soon.

Y3 Destiny was the [b]best version[/b] of Destiny that Bungie delivered in 3 years. That’s the popular opinion and it’s not wrong. Unlike the hardcores who’d run everything on repeat hundred and thousands of times who was really gonna stick around that had not finished all they wanted to finish? I mean I loved the game but by the end I wasn’t logging in very much and I was a “filthy casual” who only invested a little over 2k hrs. There’s a pvE focused content drop scheduled, that’s true. That’s already been paid for with the AP, as you stated, I’m speaking of the content that comes after the AP has run its course. They can hint at all the expansions they want consumers aren’t as hung up on possibilities as the devout fans are, more consumers now are more concerned with what’s delivered, not hyped up especially after the many missteps these last two years. So save the hype. Consumers want facts and truth not hopes and dreams. I won’t be able to tell you when the servers go down. Between the two of us you’re the one still logging in and playing. You’d be in a better position to know when that occurs. I’d have to wait and find out when the internet tells me Bungie and their Destiny universe died from piss poor decisions made by people who ran out of common sense in early 2017.

It's funny you think you can speak for all consumers. You know how many people quit but played every expansion in D1? Forsaken saw millions of players in D2. Loot/shooters need a grind. They are all built on a grind. Division 2 takes 25 hours just to get to the endgame loop, there is 5 tiers of that loop. The Raid required tier 5. The only way to hit max gear score in Anthem is ledgendary gear. You can play 6 or more hours without seeing one drop, there are 11 gear slots. WoW has the same type of grind as Destiny, there's more of it but it's still very simlar. Over a million people pay 15 bucks a month for that grind. Maybe you got involved in the wrong genre of game. Did you ever consider you made the mistake?

Lol, I have less than 20 hrs in Anthem and I have 9 masterwork items and 2 legendary on my Ranger. That’s not counting what has dropped for the javelins I don’t play. Which was 2 more legendaries. RNG ain’t a problem in Anthem. Did I say I spoke for all consumers? No, I didn’t but I’d say 14.1 million+ consumers have already spoken. I don’t need to speak for them. After the last AP content drop I imagine there might be more consumers that speak as well. Did I say I don’t like a grind? Did I even say anything about grinding? I enjoyed the Destiny grind for over 2k hrs. That was a RNG that rewarded you for time played. 2’s is not. Forsaken saw millions of players in D2. Then why are there less 800k or less actively playing during the week? They only came for Forsaken and didn’t like it and left? People pay $15 a month to play a game. Cool. Good for them. I wouldn’t pay anyone a monthly fee to play a video game and I haven’t seen a game made since I started in ‘88 that I would pay a monthly fee to play. But good for them. I didn’t make a mistake, well, I guess I believed a developer that I had just invested 2k+ hrs in their digital work would be able to replicate that with the foundation they built for themselves so I willingly bought 2 digital deluxe copies. Lol, was I ever wrong. That’s probably the only mistake I made. Had I waited till Forsaken dropped when things were marginally better and bought the game I probably wouldn’t be as salty. I probably still wouldn’t be playing but at least I wouldn’t have been as salty about it.

Go visit Anthem's Reddit and see if the community thinks RNG isn't a problem. A masterworked javalen in 20 hours....that's hardcore. All your javalens should be masterworked out by niw, they give masterworks away like candy. The grind is the gear build, the 250 percent damage buffed ledgendary items, the 200 percent gear charges, the perfect rolls on 11 pieces of gear. Destiny grind is no where near that level.

Lol. No, I’d rather not go to another video games page online. In 30 years of gaming I became invested enough to visit the internet for video game information in 2014. I’ll never make that mistake again. Destiny was the first and last mistake for that. I’m trying to climb out of the rabbit hole, not fall into another. I only play the Ranger, I don’t really like the other Javelins. I’d like the colossus of it wasn’t so slow. I dismantle everything the drops for the other suits. Dang, so I’m like one of the Destiny elitists but in Anthem where, “it’s good for me I don’t see a problem with it.” Cool. So this is what it feels like. My legendaries on the ranger are only 100% buffs. I don’t really know the extent of the loot pool just what I see come across the screen. And honestly, I bought Anthem for the flying. No lies. Flying is the best part, lol.

The flying is pretty great. The Rangers good after the last update. The loot can role with 250 percent buffs. Wait till you get a lmg with 250 weapon and 200 physical damage on it. 13000 plus critical damage with at least 50 rounds. I'm hoping for a 250 weapon damage, 200 physicsl, with a 200 mag role. That's the grind. Gear score truly doesn't matter in Anthem, grand master 3 isn't worth it reward or time wise. Even with my maxed out javalens it's still a slog and ledgendary isn't guaranteed. I only visit Reddit for the dev updates but it's littered with as many complaints as these forums. I think every forum is. That's why you shouldn't listen to us forum users. Anthem missed it's projected sales. It's 1/6 where EA wanted. Division 2 sold 1/5 as many copies as Division 1. This genre is for a specific crowd, Destiny has targeted that type of player. Most players that left after Forsaken where used to the easy loot/shooter. You keep pointing out the big number loss, most of those numbers where lost on the first part of year 1 when D2 had zero grind.

Vanilla 2 had 0 to grind for. I know a lot of hardcore player types complained about how everyone was reaching max light but I didn’t feel like max level was what I played Destiny for. I mean yeah, back then as a solo I had to be max everything if I wanted to join a raid team gg LFG but for me the game was the random rolls. Maybe that number up in the corner is important to some but It was the random god rolls that dropped and the exotics. Vanilla 2 had 0 of that. It had double primaries. It had weak guardians. It had pathetic mods(still does I’m told). Crap exotics. And everything neutered for the sake of the pvp centered design that Bungie created because they thought everyone wanted that e-sport dream. Hell, their damn raid gear didn’t even have perks and the Gauntlet was not color blind friendly. Wiped a team a few times because I wasn’t able to see those flashing rings even with the minimal color blind settings Bungie has available turned on when I first ran it. I don’t remember how often I played but it wasn’t much. I know the game hit pretty pathetic numbers around CoO. Someone said it was like 500k total on all 3 platforms. I didn’t spend my money on Forsaken but I bought it after it had come out when a clan member had told me that it was better than when I had stopped playing and it was till I just couldn’t tolerate that pathetic RNG system that gave me 80% class item drops for damn near 3 months. Rng started pushing me away from the game. The fixation on cores and no fixes to many other things were what pushed me away completely in Feb. I tried to like the game, I really did. Hell I made like 8 characters trying to enjoy the game. I just couldn’t go on fighting the system anymore. I just couldn’t bring myself to think things would be better the next log in anymore. So now I’m standing on the side watching and hoping the game can return to some semblance of what I loved but after nearly 3k or more hrs in the Destiny universe I just have to hang up my Tea Napkins.