I’m actually not trolling but it’s kind of weird you coming into forums of a game you don’t play and commenting on the current state of it. Now, I totally admit you’re entitled to do so but it’s just a bit odd.

You are correct sir, however there is a whole chunk of the community that does not understand this simple but mind blowing concept(I know I sound condescending right now but I mean well). [i]What if I wanted to come back?[/i] Between the war of love and hate there is still a connection of emotion and in its simplicity, attention. I would not be here on the forums if simply did not play [b]AND[/b] I did not want to play. In short: full apathy. No feeling no desire no attention, nothing. This is not what we are. For love to exist something must hated and vice versa. Apathy is a void, null and nothing. Most do not know this, help people know.

I understand that, personally I’ve never really fallen off the game but nearly did during Curse of Osiris, played Monster Hunter and Overwatch a lot but I’ll always find reasons to play this game due to how fun the sandbox is. Looking at your original post, you’re aggrieved by very specific things. Bungie has made changes to the drop rates (I’m guessing you’re missing a ghost, ship, sparrow or 1k for Cursebreaker) so maybe just drop in weekly and do the things that drops them. I personally think the sleeper and also whisper ammo changes were necessary and they’re both still powerful. I use sleeper on Kalli and Shuro Chi still and Whisper has effectively remained the same for boss DPS if you’re hitting your shots. You have to remember that this game isn’t all about you, some times I can find lots of reasons to play and other times not so many but another player might be the opposite. I think the season pass model really highlights this and if you’re currently not finding the motivation to play then it’s best to have a break but the things you’re specifically mad about have only just been adjusted so I doubt they’ll change them again any time soon.

But for HIM the game is absolutely all about him lol. Who cares why Bungie does the crap it does? It just comes down to each person wanting to play.. or not

Woah slow down a sec, how could I convey this thought that this is all about me? In fact it is impossible because many others support my claim, others are in the same state and that is what I wanted to draw out. ...and I'm not the only one dropping out of this garbage. Numbers speak it all, but I'll let the people who replied below this comment help you with that.

Sorry.. response to wrong person. Agree with you 💯. Lol.

Ahh I see. I now see what you are pointing out. Nice! ...and sorry... Hmmm... Nirry... Sorrice... I'll be back, I gotta put these words together.

Shh, you're not allowed to have a different opinion because that would mean you're "wrong". Edit: Don't pay attention to the ones trolling. If anyone has to insult anyone it only shows how small minded they actually are that they're not worth anyone's time.

You should probably get a life someplace else dude. Your the type of scum we dont want here in the forums

Not they type you want but the wallet is what Bungie needs. Don’t act as though Bungie is in a good position from business stand point. They might be in a good place according to some of the current player base but they’re not in a good place from outside your little box. Your emotional distress over people who have different opinions of the video game than you are what isn’t needed.

They paid Activision over 130 million dollars to get out of the contract. I think they're doing just fine.

Paid them 130 million or gave back 130 million from the 500 million Activision initially invested for their deal? I’m not sure any company who ended with their yearly sales down 60% and has only retained around 700k-800k of their initial 15 million wallets would be considered “doing just fine”. Since CoO Destiny 2 has gained less than 300k wallets back into the fold. I’m sure for the short haul “they’re doing just fine” but it’s their long game that’s going to suffer because of their lack of common sense.

Dec 28th 2018 13.7 million tracked. Today 14.1 million tracked. That's growth. I was unaware that Bungie sold any games this year. I'd say their sales are down more than you suggest but then again they haven't sold anything. Activision is being sued because they lied about the profit generated by Bungie to the investors. Seriously you don't have to play the game everyday just because you own it. Look at the other popular games on Steam, compare the players that played to the players that play everyday, the percentage is very similar. Look at D1 year 3, 1 million daily players right? There were 30 million tracked. It's the same percentage. I figured you weren't done so I did a little research on the top five steam games regarding player retention. DOTA 2 100 million players all time, 1.2 million played yesterday. PUBG 400 million players all time, 3.2 million was there peak daily count, yesterday was less than a million. CSGO 20 million all time, 850000 yesterday. Rainbow Six 35 million, 137 thousand yesterday. Warframe 20 million all time, 82000 yesterday. Are those games in trouble? I read another article that said most top selling games lose 90 percent of there players in 14 days. The bulk of the money for the rest of this year's content in Destiny has already been made.  The season pass sales aren't going to increase much.  The dedicated players paid for more premium stuff to do, they will be the ones playing.  The season pass was designed for.

Not sure what DOTa is. PUBG is all pvp. CSGO as in counter strike? Is there a story mode or is it still all pvp like the old PC CS games I played over 15 years ago? Rainbow 6. Is there story mode or is it pvp. I see a lot of people talk about it but it’s all pvp in their discussions. Warframe, lol. That game is trash and F2P. They make money off people who don’t want to farm and cosmetics. Surprised you didn’t put Fortnite up on there, would it not help with the narrative you were going for with the games you put up there? Pretty sure it ranks above all the listed games. No apex? And here I thought you’d grab all the pvp games and put them in your list. If you’re going to compare games you should compare similar games not just what’s on a list. Destiny 2 and PUBG are video games and there are guns, people, vehicles, landscapes and pixels, that’s about all they could be compared as. By all accounts you should be comparing pvp stats to pvp games but that won’t paint this narrative you’re trying to make as Destiny 2’s pvp numbers would be well, better than Warframes total at least, lol. There currently less than 850k players actively engaged in the game at any given time. If all of them bought “the premium” stuff for the next Bungie release you would barely clear 100 million dollars on opening day. That’s taking into account that every current active player bought the digital deluxe editions, which would include the base game and the first initial DLCs. You already have players who are unhappy with the AP and have expressed their desire to not invest anymore further until Bungie gets their act together. So what happens when the AP drops another less than stellar bit of content? Do you think anyone other than the hardcore devout will invest? Do you actually think more will flock to the game? Bungie will either eat crow and make the changes for the wallets they’re not reaching or they will have a come to Jesus moment along with their devout hardcores once both groups realize that the paltry amount of wallets available will not be enough to cover the bills. So, will it be a subpar game delivered next or will be a average game that no one will buy because Bungie pissed on a majority of their wallets for over 2 years? Dunno but I know my wallet won’t be opening for them. I’ll watch from the sidelines.

Those were the most popular game on Steam when grabbed them. There are no similar games on the top to compare Destiny number to. I did compare it to D1 but of course you ignored that. What game would you compare it with? Is there a lot of sci-fi fps games with open world co-op out there? There's nothing out there like Destiny as a whole. I guess you'ld like to compare it to brand new games, Anthem? Division 2? Neither of those are anything like Destiny except yiu shoot things and there is loot. There is absolutely no way to yell how many people bought the season pass.

Yeah, Y3 of a D1, a state of the game that we were told wouldn’t be updated any more and all focus would be on their next title unless something game breaking occurred. Of course numbers were dropped, which were still higher than active daily players in 2 BTW. I’m glad you have faith in Bungie but game companies don’t pay their employee or bills on faith or hopes and dreams. So do me a favor, save your stats and bring them back up after the AP has run its course and Bungie is trying to sell their next content drop that isn’t associated with the AP or better yet, just hold your stats till the end of the year.

D1 yr 3, the "best" Destiny according to these forums popular opinion. It had a million daily players most of the year. At the end they dropped far more than that. Ar the end of the year? You know there's a PvE focused update just around the quarter right? They also hinted at another expansion. You do me a favor and let me know when they plan on shutting down the servers. This franchise will eventually run its course but I don't think that'll be any time soon.

Y3 Destiny was the [b]best version[/b] of Destiny that Bungie delivered in 3 years. That’s the popular opinion and it’s not wrong. Unlike the hardcores who’d run everything on repeat hundred and thousands of times who was really gonna stick around that had not finished all they wanted to finish? I mean I loved the game but by the end I wasn’t logging in very much and I was a “filthy casual” who only invested a little over 2k hrs. There’s a pvE focused content drop scheduled, that’s true. That’s already been paid for with the AP, as you stated, I’m speaking of the content that comes after the AP has run its course. They can hint at all the expansions they want consumers aren’t as hung up on possibilities as the devout fans are, more consumers now are more concerned with what’s delivered, not hyped up especially after the many missteps these last two years. So save the hype. Consumers want facts and truth not hopes and dreams. I won’t be able to tell you when the servers go down. Between the two of us you’re the one still logging in and playing. You’d be in a better position to know when that occurs. I’d have to wait and find out when the internet tells me Bungie and their Destiny universe died from piss poor decisions made by people who ran out of common sense in early 2017.

It's funny you think you can speak for all consumers. You know how many people quit but played every expansion in D1? Forsaken saw millions of players in D2. Loot/shooters need a grind. They are all built on a grind. Division 2 takes 25 hours just to get to the endgame loop, there is 5 tiers of that loop. The Raid required tier 5. The only way to hit max gear score in Anthem is ledgendary gear. You can play 6 or more hours without seeing one drop, there are 11 gear slots. WoW has the same type of grind as Destiny, there's more of it but it's still very simlar. Over a million people pay 15 bucks a month for that grind. Maybe you got involved in the wrong genre of game. Did you ever consider you made the mistake?

Lol, I have less than 20 hrs in Anthem and I have 9 masterwork items and 2 legendary on my Ranger. That’s not counting what has dropped for the javelins I don’t play. Which was 2 more legendaries. RNG ain’t a problem in Anthem. Did I say I spoke for all consumers? No, I didn’t but I’d say 14.1 million+ consumers have already spoken. I don’t need to speak for them. After the last AP content drop I imagine there might be more consumers that speak as well. Did I say I don’t like a grind? Did I even say anything about grinding? I enjoyed the Destiny grind for over 2k hrs. That was a RNG that rewarded you for time played. 2’s is not. Forsaken saw millions of players in D2. Then why are there less 800k or less actively playing during the week? They only came for Forsaken and didn’t like it and left? People pay $15 a month to play a game. Cool. Good for them. I wouldn’t pay anyone a monthly fee to play a video game and I haven’t seen a game made since I started in ‘88 that I would pay a monthly fee to play. But good for them. I didn’t make a mistake, well, I guess I believed a developer that I had just invested 2k+ hrs in their digital work would be able to replicate that with the foundation they built for themselves so I willingly bought 2 digital deluxe copies. Lol, was I ever wrong. That’s probably the only mistake I made. Had I waited till Forsaken dropped when things were marginally better and bought the game I probably wouldn’t be as salty. I probably still wouldn’t be playing but at least I wouldn’t have been as salty about it.