[quote]Is it just me or does it seem like they are trying to kill off pvp in this game.[/quote] No. I think they are slowly de-emphasizing it. Because its need for balance is an anchor around the neck of the PVE side of the game....and vanilla D2 was Bungie's best effort to build a game that met the needs of the competitive PVP community, and it nearly destroyed the franchise. Then throw in the public fascination with BR games right now....and shackling this game's future to the Crucible looks like a really bad bet.