I think you misunderstood what I meant. Yeah a lot of "Oh that guys cheating" is not true but the same can be said of "he wasn't cheating get gud scrub noob". That's why I say both should present their own evidence not one or the other or else it all comes down to he said she said here say.

You know what I don't get and this is why I didn't bother making a reply to your last reply to me? a conversation works both ways not just 1 way and this forum has this illusion that if anyone makes a claim that they have to prove it. That is false knowing a lot of what has been said is (all over the net, this forum, Reddit etc... with more than enough info that is proof certain things take place more often than you would care to admit. You're too easy to read by looking at the comments you have made on this thread. So here lies the issue, a person that is challenging someone to prove whatever has never really done their research about the company or game. Example, I know a lot about what happened D2 prior to it being released. Like the CEO quitting during production. Do you know how many people actually know this on this forum? I can almost guarantee more than half this forum doesn't even have a clue that that took place. Yet because they never do their research they, like you seem to think it's false and will challenge a person to prove it. You're not looking to have a conversation, I mean, I can see that as bright as day. You're looking to play a game on who is right and who is wrong. This is why I didn't bother with you. There is no right or wrong here and you need to grasp that before you even start up a conversation. Do you know why more then half this forum doesn't know much about the game or company? let alone Activions? [spoiler]It's because they don't pay any attention to the game they play or bother looking things up. I bet you didn't even know the CEO of D2 quit and I bet I can name quite of few things you literally do not know about this company and what actually happened in D2 before it released. Your attempt to say this doesn't happen more often than not failed and failed hardcore. This is nothing personal, but do your research before making any more comments on this thread because so far 3 people have proven you wrong.[/spoiler] Edit: Don't expect another reply to me. I don't want a long dragged out waste of time going back and forth on this.