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I have been contacted by my Internet service provider after I got DoSed yesterday, how long will cheater problem be swept under the rug by Bungie?

We have been DoSed numerous times in the Crucible, I used to record and report every DoS but I have stopped doing that when I saw that no bans were ever issued even months after numerous reports with video proofs. Same with rapid-fire glitch macros cheaters (like [redacted]), [redacted] was banned by hand after popular Destiny YouTuber released two videos about him. If [redacted] was banned then we know that what he was doing is considered bannable offense by Bungie. But there is a cheater just like [redacted] in my connection who was doing it for over a year now without any ban. We match this cheater every day and we report him every day. That is why I can say with 100% certainty that in-game reports don't work, web form reports with video proofs and PGCR links don't work. Some time ago I have created a thread here about cheater problem, in two days it had over 200 up votes, filled with joy that maybe now something will be done, I have tweeted it to every Bungie developer I knew, just shortly after I did that, my thread was deleted! Here is the full story that wrote in response to that: https://telegra.ph/How-Bungies-forum-rules-have-led-to-game-breaking-exploit-being-in-two-games-for-3-years-and-counting-05-03 tl;dr: Bungie actively sweeps these issues under the rug for way, way too long. This is criminal. When I told about how Bungie handles cheaters to my ISP they were lost for words. I just don't how can Bungie be so incompetent at handling this issue, yet so good at hiding it. I love my ISP: they provide cheap, fast, reliable Internet with IPv6 support, home router with open source firmware, open NAT without double NAT, they are simply the best. But now I have to be on their bad side because of Bungie unbelievable, inconceivable, incomprehensible incompetence. My ISP told me that it was 12gb attack from a single IP address. Here is PCGR of yestertday's DoS: [links redacted] Look at that, a 4-stack of recoveries. Just let that sink in, Bungie is so incompetent that people can reliably DoS their way to 5500 without any account ban. Let. That. Sink. In. After DoS attack we logged back in and the game tried to reconnect us back, but as always it didn't work. It never worked even one time. Why was this feature added to the game if does not work at all? Level of incompetence from Bungie's security team is simply astonishing. It is insane that they could sweep this under the rug for so long and ignore the issue. After 5 000+ hours of D1 and D2 I hold opinion that people play Destiny because of reward system and they are forced to endure horrible balance, horrible PvP and cheaters who don't get banned. I think that Destiny 2, with the way that Bungie threats it, can be classified as psychological violence. Because we really need mental help after this incredible injustice that have to witness on daily basis. I know that I could easily inflict real act of violence if a member of Bungie security team were standing in front of me. After everything that me and my team had to endure in this horrible, horrible game [spoiler]when you have an ult attack in-game that can be countered only by jumping off the map your game should be considered horrible[/spoiler] that we keep coming back to because of the rewards. I get that it's hard to detect and ban all kinds of private cheats on PC, but I'm talking about PS4 and Xbox One console versions of Destiny 2. Consoles are secure, closed down platforms, where only couple forms of cheating exist: connection manipulation, DoS attacks and macros. It is simply incomprehensible that game as a Service, game that can be considered platform all in itself, cannot deal with this. A good developer would have disabled any competitive playlist until these issues are resolved, but Bungie just rolls with it and sweeps everything under the rug. I'm posting this again with Ninja edit, because previous post was silently REMOVED FROM INDEXATION so no one could find it or post there, but it would still accessible via direct link. They still actively sweeping it under a rug, this is crazy! Check it out yourself, here is the link to the old thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249494026 Looks okay, right? But can you find it or post there?

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  • Shame on you bungie. They said they would stop this. More and more LIES

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  • Our breaths are being wasted when we talk about PVP problems. Bungie is the problem. They won't even acknowledge us.

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  • Reply bump.

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  • Which player was banned?

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      I haven't ever experienced this but I have definitly seen some accounts that were very obviously doing it. If it really is as bad as some people make it out to be then getting stories posted about it would be the best way to see a result. When all the popular gaming news sites start running big stories about it they will be somewhat forced to respond in some form. If I can look at a game history and see that someone has been booting people they can definitly tell. But it's also on the community to record whatever evidence you can and submit it on bungie.net. in game reporting systems are useless because salty people just use them as an outlet for their anger.

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    • Wow. Just wow. Hope it works out for you. Especially with the substantial evidence present. You have my vote.

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    • Bungie bans people constantly. It’s a losing effort. There will always be another worthless hack. Literally.

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    • Life is full of cunts

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      • They dont care enough said

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      • The only way is that we stop playing this game, i love playing crucible but lately is been awful playing with so many cheaters.

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      • 👍🏻

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      • Bungie doesn't announce bans of any kind so you'd have no clue if they were handing them out or not. The person who you say you report every day obviously isn't cheating.

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        • DM me the links and reports redacted from here. I'll post it on Xbox feedback and upvote it so that it becomes the first review anyone reads. You can do the same. I can't do on PSN but others can I bet.

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        • I don't play much PvP anymore, in fact, as little as possible. Never was that good at it, but the new ranking system has gutted PvP for me. I haven't played much at all in the last two weeks; I've found pleasure in reading, again. Burned through three books ("Just Kids", "Future Sex", and a little chap book of mathematical formulae) in a few days and just started "American Gods" which has been on the stack forever. I'd almost forgotten how much I love to read. I fired up the Xbox late yesterday. I hovered over Destiny 2 but played, of all things, FalloutShelter. Then, I reinstalled Mass Effect: Andromeda to see how it plays after whatever their last fixes were. The graphics are shite, but their story line is orders of magnitude better than anything we've gotten in Destiny. Not sure I'll keep playing it, but it was a welcome respite from all the Destiny nonsense. Bungie may be listening, but I am consistently flummoxed by what they choose to fix. Just about done. And when I'm done with a game, I rarely go back: EverQuest, World of Warcraft, Age of Empires (in multiplayer, gawd those scripts), Call of Duty, Halo. I'm looking for my next big indulgence. Have yet to find it. Can I really be at the end of my gaming life after four decades of pushing pixels?

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        • So I see all the names were removed that you had mentioned...by bungie I'd assume. Would any of those happen to do with anything related to "Illuminati"? I thought it was a DDoS the other day, but since I was still connected to the internet, I figured it may have been a failed attempt at it, but either way, I got kicked from the crucible :( I agree with you though man, Bungie just lets it go...but it's because they can't do anything about it.

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          • Lmao I can’t believe people still think Bungie gives a shit . It’s been a decade and the same shit is still happening they don’t care get over it quit the game . Their Billion dollar companies and as long as fanboys defend them and buy their garbage your shit out luck bruh . Your not a person to them your a $ and nothing else . They don’t even have people to reply posts lol , Bungies been garbage for years ain’t changing any time soon .

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          • I’ll keep saying this, how anything in this game be considered competitive is beyond me.

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          • Screw cheaters. Ban them.

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          • I keep telling people that I sincerely hope you move on to a different game. There are SO MANY titles and studios that deserve the business 1000 times over. I still have people that want to me to play Derpstiny with them but I just don't enjoy anything about it. It's not rewarding How often you encounter a frustrating experience with this title? Probably way more than an experience that you grossly enjoy. It's a damn shame that Bungie's game facade has gone on as long as it has but please man, get away from this cancer

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          • They got your money, shut up. Hate me for saying it sure, but hate yourself for continuing to throw money at a company that doesn't give a shit about cheating. Just saying, over the last 4 years they've made it pretty clear what their stance on cheating is. Maybe it's time for you to stop expecting more and move on.

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            • This is another reason to add to the list of why I stopped playing D2, Im not wasting my money anymore.

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            • How, exactly, is Bungie supposed to prevent DoS attacks?

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              • [quote]We match this cheater every day and we report him every day. [/quote] Why didn't you use the "block" feature Xbox provides? PS must provide the equivalent.

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                • Ddosing seems less prevelant than it did in D1 trials, at least for me. I my self was never Ddosd but I was left in 1v3 trials 3 or 4 times over the 1.5 years I did trials. One time I won too. Then I told em should have Ddosd me and got no response😎. Not saying it's a non issue of course, just saying I'm glad it hasn't happened to me at all since y2d1 trials.

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                • Im only using this game as a waiting platform for anthem

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                  • This definitely needs to be fixed. I don’t know what’s going on in Bungie to have this happen, but this is fmdefinately unacceptable. Hopefully bungie will see this, not delete it, and that the cheaters will get banned for good.

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