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7/12/2018 1:03:23 PM
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Everybody’s voice deserves to be heard. Regardless of deployment status or gender based relationships status. The fact that you would bring deployed soldiers up, as a rallying cry, says something about your motives. Let them be, let them do their jobs, thank them when they return home, be grateful that our lives are so much better for their sacrifices. Make sure they know that when they return! Otherwise, leave soldiers alone. They are not pawns in either side, they are not tools to advance agendas. Any agendas, other than the lawful orders dictated by the officers appointed over them.
NONE of that hinges on their sexual orientation OR their relationships.
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[quote]The fact that you would bring deployed soldiers up, as a rallying cry, says something about your motives.[/quote] My motives are that everyone's voice deserves to be heard, and that everyone's story is worth telling. That every human's HUMANITY deserves to be respected and honored. What are YOUR motives...and why do you seem to be implying that gay soldiers somehow need to remain "closeted"? My point is what is being called (in the service of subtle prejudice) 'FORCED DIVERSITY"...is, in fact, the presentation of the REAL WORLD. There are gay soldiers who fight in our wars to protect the things and people they love....and some of the people they love happen to be of the same sex. Seeing them as "pawns" to be used is YOUR agenda. Not mine. To me they are simply human beings whose voices and stories deserve to be heard and deserve to be respected simply because they are human. They NEED no further "justification" for their presence, or their validity in being told. How 'bout you?
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Let them tell their story. They don’t need corporate welfare to take up their cause. I have no agenda and agree that everybody’s story is a valid story, and one that I’ll listen to. I have NO duty nor obligation to agree with it though. Many things are collectively agreed upon as accepted that I have fundamental issues with. Drugs (legalization of), drinking any alcohol while driving, infidelity, to name just a few. But, when PepsiCo tries to tell me what their interpretation of those unique, individualized stories are, I immediately ignore everything they’ve ever said about that subject. Horse’s mouth, not agreed upon collective social group think. We are ALL different, we ALL have unique stories to tell. Categorizing them neatly and placing labels or stereotypes does a massive disservice to everyone’s story. It homogenizes it, into nothing more than room temperature oatmeal. I have a very fundamental and philosophical difference than you. When people disagree it doesn’t mean they wish less than well upon those they disagree with. It simply means: We ALL have unique stories to tell and we ALL have a right to our voices, opinions, and beliefs.
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Only they have the right to decide who can and cannot speak for them. So, unless they complain or say they feel disrespected? All of us need to butt out and let whomever they are comfortable with speak. And I’m not hearing many gay people complain. But a shit ton of straight people started bitching the moment it became clear she was gay.
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Pretty sure, you don’t have enough personally identifiable information on the number of posters here to identify sexual orientation. You’re assuming. As Twain once stated (or at least attributed to him): “It’s not what I don’t know that gets me into trouble, it’s what I know for sure, that just ain’t true.” But, why is it that you want to speak for them? I don’t, clearly. Is there some contractual agreement you alone have with everybody in the entire LGBTQ community that when you speak for each of them individually, your word should be considered dogma? Clearly and obviously, you aren’t the only person in the world exposed to the non hetero world. There are no doubt, differences of opinion there, also. They are varied and unique as we all are. Are there people who are using perjorative and homophobic slurs right now, on these forums. Sure, yep, I hope you are reporting them. I know I do, and will. This forum will be better off without them. But, when a poster states clearly and unambiguously that they don’t care about a person’s sexual orientation, hetero or non, but they disagree with the emphasis placed on that specific portion of the character development. There is Nothing wrong with that. That is the very definition of difference of opinions. Like you said VERY clearly, everybody’s has a story and those voices deserved to be heard. To which, I agree wholeheartedly. Everybody.
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You are the most condescending prick I’ve seen in a while. Let’s start with this: No, not EVERYONE deserves to have their voice heard and respected. Respect is EARNED. Maybe you should go earn yours bud. A soldier in Iraq has earned my respect for doing a dangerous job. More so if he can do it well. Just existing as a gay man or women deserves ZERO respect. Most people base their opinions on who should be respected on merit, and this comic book holds none. It just cries “you’ll love it because the main character is gay!” Just because we have the freedom of speech does not mean you have to be heard all day everyday. I’m not asking for gays to be silent. I’m asking for people like you to shut the -blam!- up and let gays earn their respect like the rest of us and let being gay be another variable in what makes that person great. 🤘
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Same to you. Don't ascribe evil motives to me (that are just your projected biases) and expect me to just politely accept them. Don't hurl shit at people, and then act all affronted when they pick it up and throw it back at you. Being gay is just part of being HUMAN...and ALL Humans deserve to be respected. Deserve to be heard AND DON'T NEED TO 'JUSTIFY" THEIR EXISTENCE. Your mileage may vary. Which it seems to.
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I agree with this. But, I will remind you that you stated “ALL.” That means exactly that, ALL people, even those who have fundamental differences of beliefs when it comes to the non hetero verse.
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I respect their humanity. Doesn't mean that I have to respect their ideas or their opinions. Respect for one's humanity and human dignity---in my way of being---is a given. Respect for your personality and your ideas----must be EARNED.
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When my way of being differs from your way of being, a problem occurs. When anybody thinks their “way of being” should be respected but another’s “way of being” is just a “personality” or “ideas” then I have an issue. Please define “way of being” and why does it apply to one set of people, but not another?
