I believe a lot of these things were not included because most QoL changes originated from ROI and D2 started development before Rise Of Iron so it is a possibility

You know what, that makes a lot of sense. I didn't think about this game was in development way before some of the changes. So kudos on that viewpoint! But, I'm still confused why they put fixed perks on gear and the raid gear. These are the things I think are really affecting end game. Nobody has anything to hunt for. But great viewpoint!

I think the Rise of Iron team and the Destiny 2 teams weren't really in communication because of the time constraints from Bungie's contract with Activision. They're on a pretty tight schedule, so while they might not have meant to exclude features we really loved, they may not have had the time to do so. If they had time to work on the game as they needed and could openly communicate with us, I imagine they would.

[quote]I think the Rise of Iron team and the Destiny 2 teams weren't really in communication because of the time constraints from Bungie's contract with Activision. They're on a pretty tight schedule, so while they might not have meant to exclude features we really loved, they may not have had the time to do so. If they had time to work on the game as they needed and could openly communicate with us, I imagine they would.[/quote] So much naivety, so little time! So you're telling me that as a company, Bungie couldn't facilitate communication between [b]TWO[/b] teams of people??! "Because of time restraints"?? What is this amateur hour?!??? Give me a break! You're giving them the benefit of a doubt that doesn't even exist! Extremely busy companies coordinate extremely complex ideas and projects with extreme accuracy and communication ALL THE TIME. The excuse of "too stressed - not enough time" works when you can't hit the bar after work because you're too busy. THIS IS A MASSIVE COMPANY THAT LITERALLY HAS A COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. Foh with that naive bullshit. Why, after 3 years of GARBAGE PR and stretched truths and a clear disconnect on the direction of the franchise, why, why on this lovely lovely Earth WHY would you EVER think they would communicate if they could. They don't, they never do, and they probably aren't allowed because of Activision. If they told us all two years ago that this was the plan for D2, they'd have less than half of the pre-orders they raked in! Keeping us in silence but giving tiny useless tidbits of info is THEIR JAM. They've been doing that for three solid years now. Why would you ever think that's because of how busy they are?!?! Open your eyes Guardian! You're just a consumer with a pocket full of cash to them. The more you know, the less likely you are to spend it. [spoiler]also, if you think these devs are working SO hard they can't communicate with each other, check out their Twitter accounts! They're ALL very active and vocal to each other when it concerns what Star Wars prequel was the best, or whose dog looks the most like them, or what brand of cereal they have for breakfast... Come on Guardian, don't give them credit if it's not due.[/spoiler]

I think you need to relax, man. It's not that serious. If it works, it works, and if it doesn't, life goes on.

Lmao Says "relax" to simple logic and reasoning. I couldn't care less about the future of this franchise anymore. I just can't stand people spreading misinformation. So, sorry if that wasn't relaxed enough for you, but people saying a bunch of bullshit amidst a bunch of bullshit? Someone's gotta keep things in order!

Again, you need to relax. You're creating conflict where it isn't needed. I have no problem being corrected, but I'm not speaking from a place of expertise. I very clearly started that post with, "I think" nothing in there was an objective claim. It was just a thought, not an assertion. If you don't care about the franchise, why are you here?

I'll reply later, man. I'm relaxing now, dude. Ignorance is bliss and yeah, man. Good times.. Good times

We're all ignorant one way or another. Don't be rude.

[quote]We're all ignorant one way or another. Don't be rude.[/quote] Kk thanks Mom You're such a virtuous and morally competent god of a human! How do you even speak to such low forms of life from all the way up there on your high horse in your ivory tower?! It's rude to intelligence to be so horribly bad at making a point. Move along, but not too fast! Relax, man

You're the one being pretentious here.

[quote]You're the one being pretentious here.[/quote] [b]Pretentious[/b]: Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed. 😂

I'm using it correctly here.

That's right - you are using those ideals and being actively pretentious in the most correct way possible! I'm being an asshole and sticking up for the FACTS. You're being a high horsed pretentious douche who tells people to not "be rude" over the internet. LMAO

What facts though? Are you reading the tone of your comments properly vs mine? I'm not the one speaking as if I have greater importance than I do. The only claim I made was Bungie being on a tight schedule due to their contract with Activision, which can be disputed. The rest of my post is just what I think, and I'm not defending those statements as factual. If we're disputing my use of pretentious here, your general tone strikes me as someone who thinks more highly of themselves than is deserved. Now, if I said that Destiny 2 was the best game of 2017, I'd understand your tone then. If I spread the info that we're going to get major updates that will completely overhaul the entire game by Chris Barret's team, I'd definitely understand where you're coming from. That's not at all what I've done here. Maybe I'm just not seeing something, and I can accept that but I'm confused by the tone of your responses; from my perspective, you've come on quite strong.

Woah man woah relax eh! Sheesh just relax man your post is full of logic and reasoning and I can't handle it. Don't be so rude!

I'm sorry.

[quote]I'm sorry.[/quote] No hard feelings man - I got a little carried away there for sure. Let's call it even and call it a night because I really do need to relax now haha I've got work quite early in the morning. See ya starside Guardian, and you had me there, I obviously do care about this franchise or else I wouldn't be here

None of us would have cared about this post if we didn't care. It's just a shame, I think. It could be so much better. Goodnight to you though, sleep tight.

I'm still trying to figure out which came first: the live team's Tyra Karn & Iron Temple or D2 team's Tyra Karn & Vostok

I'm not even sure I could say for sure. Tyra Karn was more lively in Rise of Iron imo.