They truly lost their way once they left their own community(Seventh Column) to die, [url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-12-the-day-the-music-died-when-bungie-fired-marty-odonnell]fired Marty over bullshit[/url], and then ultimately destroyed Destiny for the sake of attracting casuals. It's no longer about the fans or the quality of the game. No. It's about making as much money as possible no matter the negative repercussions. [quote]@ownLife If you've followed Bungie for any length of time (I've been a Bungie fan since Myth II), you'd be in denial if you believed what Bungie is doing now, compared to what Bungie has done, is A-Okay. Old Bungie: amazing community, amazing games that didn't require spending $200+ to enjoy the full experience, lots of community involvement from the team (I used to love the Mail Sack posts), a more up-beat message, no Activision, no "exclusive" content, no pay wall... on and on. New Bungie: a jaded community, a Bungie "community" member that clearly is more concerned with PR than actual substance, a marketing machine that boasts gameplay options that just straight up aren't true ("if you can see it..."), a massive paywall, limited options in-game... unless you pay, sparse involvement from the Bungie team, bare-minimum communication, more concern with "hype" than actual substance, a clear road map of releasing half-a-game, then using "DLCs" to "flesh-out" the rest of the game.... etc., etc.... If we're all being honest with ourselves, it's next to impossible to deny the fall of Bungie. Did they make a massively successful game with Destiny 1? Sure. Will Destiny 2 be huge? Yup. Does that matter? Not at all. Why? Because Destiny 2 will sell very well and make lots of money (gee, I wonder why they are releasing it on PC?), but the active player base will have a massive drop-off shortly after release, which will perpetuate this massively toxic community (for good reason), forcing Bungie to make more "decisions" about gameplay mechanics and additions, further isolating Bungie fans. And the cycle continues... Make no mistake: New Bungie is a sad excuse for carrying the Bungie name. Denying this is an act of self-justification and ignorance. New Bungie fans jump from game to game. Bungie will feel this down the road and they'll be just another Dice or Massive--a drop in the gaming world bucket. It's a shame, really, I can count on one hand how many game developers are genuinely moving the gaming industry forward, rather than cashing-in on a very lucrative business model. Sadly, Bungie is just another gaming company making lots of money by milking their customers for all they're worth.[/quote]