Well I am a beta player with just about 1000 hours. Sorry low Grimore and not that manny MOT. If you look, you can see I've done a lot, but not everything. I think it's fun. The guns don't feel quite as powerful. But things to remember ... 1. Enemies are 210 light, not 200. So they are more powerful than you. 2. I don't think they have the gear stats unlocked. You can change the nodes, but it doesn't show up on the main character screen. 3. They didn't give you the best guns. Most of the guns (aside for exotics) seem to be average Vanguard type gear. Not terrible, but not great either. 4. With the new slot system, it will take time to determine what works for you. With out all of the weapon types, it's kind of hard to figure that out. I had some many times when I wanted to bust out my LMG. I think once we get some hands on time and learn the new in and outs, I will play it as much as vanilla. Haters are going to hate.