Stopped counting my hours a long time ago, stopped collecting grimoire a long time ago but still 5400+. Never pre ordered, might not buy. I'll wait and be the judge when the open beta hits. Needless to say, I am extremely critical of destiny at this point, and have disliked the direction the game has gone since day one. Not just what is in the game, but also the way the developers will sometimes make changes on a whim based off their statistics and what they think the game "should" be. D1 year three is far different from D1 year one. There have been constant tweaks and tinkerings completed by the devs to increase diversity, yet they are shutting down destiny in the worst state with only icebreaker sidearms and palindrome being used. Just so disappointing. I don't understand how they can just leave it like this, and at the same time so many people are star struck by their reveals. Anyway, yes still around, but this might be the last of destiny I play.