Ah bless. The OP is upset that people like me, on a really good wage, don't want to pre-order a game so he trots out all sorts of reasons for it when in reality its none of his business. The car crash that Destiny was at launch would be a valid reason for not pre-ordering on its own but the fact nothing about Destiny 2 has been released, apart from a story element, is the main one for me. You pay for the things you mentioned because you KNOW what you are getting when you pay someone for a service like a meal in a restaurant. There is a menu, you make a choice and you pay for it AFTER you have had it. What you are doing is handing over money and saying "Just give a game, any game." and then making out people who don't want to are the problem !! .. Head. Wobble. Give. .. then look in the mirror for why games like Destiny and others are sold far from completed .. *whispers* .. its because they already have your money genius. If you want to pay upfront for Destiny 2 then go right ahead, its your money. But coming out with drivel like saying that if we don't pre-order we wont have games as they wont go to launch just shows the naivety of the zombie like pre-order enthusiasts like you that companies like Bungie exploit. Based on your logic you are happy to sit down in a restaurant, hand over a handful of cash and get a meal, any meal. I really hope Bungie never come to a sudden halt as fanboys like you are going to go shoulder deep in their lower colon. The competition for space would be funny though.