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Edited by BrianFantastic: 4/15/2017 3:44:49 PM
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I'm a full time chef with 3 young(ish) kids. My play time can be limited. I'm not buying the game until I know what I'm paying for. No dedicated pvp servers. No sale. No stopping carries in competitive pvp. No sale. No story. No sale. I've got £200 waiting to buy the deluxe edition as soon as I'm satisfied the above criteria are met. EDIT; [u]Assuming trials is still a thing.[/i] Stopping or at least reducing (Paid) carries should be relatively simple. Once a character has gone flawless either; A) lockout that character from trials (not desirable or what I want) B) reduce the pool of players you will match against to others who have already gone flawless. Then add another pool for people with 2x flawless etc. Make it account wide so you only play others of the same skill level. If someone in your FT has 4x flawless runs that week, the whole fireteam is places in the 4x flawless matchmaking pool. However, It's really not my job to sort out how its done, it's simply a factor in whether I buy the game or not. I'm not saying they should cater to my demands. That's absurd. I'm simply and clearly setting out the parameters i personally would like to see satisfied in order for me to purchase D2.
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  • More importantly, a chef you say? May I ask what/where you specialize at?

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  • Do you dislike all carries or just paid ones?

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  • How can you stop carries in competitive PvP? I'm honestly curious as to how you think they can stop something they have almost no control over.

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  • Whining about carries I don't understand at all. It's simple logic. If you have a solid team, beating a 2 man team carrying a nobody should be easy. It happens all the time. Get better and stop whining.

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  • Agree

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  • I prefer no pvp at all. Only pvp for pve quest rewards.

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  • Well, might as well look for another game because you are not going to get any of what you ask for. Most companies that have a brain learn from there mistakes and actually improve their game. Bungie hasn't learned jack and it's going on 3 years. That pretty freaking sad...

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  • Cool story. See you in D2.

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  • Competitive pvp Lmaooooooo

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  • I agree dedicated servers are a must and also separate weapon and armour balancing for pvp.

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  • See, this makes sense. Op, not so much. I make my own money too (and have to say kudos for cutting me out of the demographic, as a 21 year old I make more then several people in their 30s and 40s...), and I see no sense on giving my money to a company that hasn't finished or even explained their product. There's so much underlying mystery to the game as of right now. Am I interested? Hell yeah! Am I going to pay full price for a game that there is little information about? No. From the wise words of Cartman "preordering is just promising to pay for a game that some a**holes in California haven't even finished... you know what you get for preordering? A **** in your mouth". I'm not going to throw my hard earned money blindly at a screen. Give me details and we'll see.

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  • Edited by UltraCon79: 4/14/2017 11:54:28 AM
    Average 35 year old gamer shells out $300 mo for gaming. You may be beyond the demo and therefore above the rabble.

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  • [quote]See, this makes sense. Op, not so much. I make my own money too (and have to say kudos for cutting me out of the demographic, as a 21 year old I make more then several people in their 30s and 40s...), and I see no sense on giving my money to a company that hasn't finished or even explained their product. There's so much underlying mystery to the game as of right now. Am I interested? Hell yeah! Am I going to pay full price for a game that there is little information about? No. From the wise words of Cartman "preordering is just promising to pay for a game that some a**holes in California haven't even finished... you know what you get for preordering? A **** in your mouth". I'm not going to throw my hard earned money blindly at a screen. Give me details and we'll see.[/quote] You make more money than several people in there 30's and 40's? Really? Just do the math on minimum wage workers in that age group. If you make $0.25 more than that, then you, young man, will be making more than that number, which I would bet would be in the hundreds of thousands or millions. It's nothing to brag about either. It's nothing to even think about. Just focus on becoming a responsible adult and when free, play some destiny!

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  • A 40 year old worker on minimum wage is not earning 100's of thousands or millions. What a completely ridiculous, childish statement.

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  • Pretty sure he was referring to the number of people in that demographic

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  • Ahh, probably a more realistic number then..

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  • Edited by LucentDust: 4/14/2017 5:52:19 AM
    Well no, it's not something I'm bragging about or really that concerned with (school is priority...), it was merely brought to the table when the OP made the ignorant statement that their target market is 25 and up on a rated T game. I realize that beating minimum wage isn't really much of a challenge, or even accomplishment (though 11.50 an hour is much better than Illinois' 8.25 + .25, but I've still got a long ways to go). I was just calling out the opposition, who's making silly claims with lack of evidence. Even to the assuming that the parents buy everything - I've bought the grand majority of my gaming gear and games out of my own pocket, even growing up. Mow lawns and the like, 16 get a job... I am hopeful D2 turns into something phenomenal... but the game can easily get released without everyone's preorder, and I'm not handing my money over just yet. Destiny left a lot to be desired compared to the original promise, but still brought some enjoyable (and painful - screw you vanilla drop rate) times.

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  • Edited by UltraCon79: 4/14/2017 11:57:19 AM
    Sorry 35 is the actual paying customer average willing to blow hundreds on micro transactions.

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  • Haha, THAT makes more sense, but they're kind of adding to the problem for everyone else. If the people will buy it, they'll sell it.

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  • Best answer yet 👏👏👏.

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  • Easy fix for trials, 1 run per character. Either get to lighthouse once or 3 attempts. Then locked out.

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  • Carries aren't going to stop if something like ToO exists, sorry to say. Bungie doesn't enforce their own terms of service so take it up with them.

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  • I don't mind carries, I just really don't like account recoveries.

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  • Same lol, most people who do recovs and run stacked are too mediocre to carry. And I really don't get how you can just trust some guy with your account.

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  • I beat an account recovery player in trials. He was actually garbage though. But I hope ToO is either kept out of D2, or reimplemented in a different way.

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