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Edited by FromNowOn:
4/12/2017 8:58:43 PM
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Get an informed opinion!
So much of the content of your post is just pulled right out of your ass.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about and it shows.
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Idk how smart you are... you can "pre-order" games for a very little amount of money and either pay them off over time or when you pick it up. I read your whole argument with this guy and honestly couldn't follow your points at all. I get that buying the game completely at the first hint of a pre-order is not smart because you don't know what you're getting, but you don't have to purchase a full game to "pre-order". And in many instances of pre-ordering you are allowed to cancel even after the game comes out as long as you didn't pick it up. So even if you did pay full price for a pre-order and then saw that the game was bad you could just cancel...
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Edited by FromNowOn: 4/13/2017 12:25:14 AM[quote]Idk how smart you are... you can "pre-order" games for a very little amount of money and either pay them off over time or when you pick it up. I read your whole argument with this guy and honestly couldn't follow your points at all. I get that buying the game completely at the first hint of a pre-order is not smart because you don't know what you're getting, but you don't have to purchase a full game to "pre-order". And in many instances of pre-ordering you are allowed to cancel even after the game comes out as long as you didn't pick it up. So even if you did pay full price for a pre-order and then saw that the game was bad you could just cancel...[/quote] I only made one point and you obviously did follow it since you reiterated it in your reply. I'm not sure what you mean by saying "you don't have to purchase a full game to preorder." You absolutely are 100% buying the full game! In most cases there is a season pass offer as well so you could say you're buying MORE than the full game! If you're talking about preordering and not purchasing the actual game until launch then that's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about what OP is talking about which is PAID preorders. Not financed, not just so it's in stock at launch, PAID in full upon purchase. As far as cancelation, you're right you can cancel a preorder. But, like you said, the only way to get a refund is if you don't end up picking up the game. You can't preorder, not pick it up for a week, and then cancel your preorder and expect a full refund. It doesn't work like that. Also, good luck returning a digital copy. You got my point, and you said it beautifully! Don't preorder when you know absolutely nothing about the game! That's really as far as it goes. Be smart with your money and take responsibility for your actions! OP is making it sound like preorders are necessary for the industry to endure and survive. This is simply not the case. Other than that, I just hate to see people throwing their money at the screen for a trailer! Would you pre-order tickets to a movie based on a teaser trailer with no actual footage?? Probably not... But you already understand that point so...
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Obviously you do. You responded to him
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[quote]Obviously you do. You responded to him[/quote] Yeah I care that people are being misinformed about the gaming industry because this moron decided to make an incredibly uninformed post about some bullshit opinion. If it's obvious that I do... Why make a redundant post reiterating it?
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Because we all love you
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You cared so much you replied. I apologize for the spelling I'm using text-to-speech using an Android application because I have problems in my hands from my time spent on an aircraft carrier.
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Edited by FromNowOn: 4/12/2017 9:01:17 PM[quote]from my time spent on an aircraft carrier.[/quote] Lol... Felt the need to squeeze that in there eh. IDGAF about your hands. Stop spreading misinformation. You obviously have ZERO clue about the industry. 20 mil to launch and 60 mil to operate and launch a sequel?!?! Where in all the flying -blam!-s of the internet and its glory did you get [i]that[/i] gem of a stat??
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Edited by UltraCon79: 4/12/2017 9:01:56 PMYou do realize that the way that sentence was structured where 20 million is just an abstract number it's just to demonstrate the philosophy of how it works.
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[quote]You do realize that the way that sentence was structured where 20 million is just an abstract number it's just a demonstrate the philosophy of how it works.[/quote] It demonstrates it inaccurately to illustrate YOUR POINT. Your post comes across like fact but it's PURE conjecture and to anyone with any experience in the industry it's blatantly and embarrassingly obvious. You don't know what you're talking about and you're influencing others with that misinformation. It's not right and you should know better.
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Actually everything I'm saying is perfectly sound you have no argument with any specifics that you could possibly use to dispute what I'm saying. Just basic capitalism
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Sorry for the late reply, I was pre-ordering my new car. Just bought it no test drive and without even knowing what it looks like. I'm helping the automotive industry produce next year's line of vehicles by blindly buying this year's! :) Oh wait no... I'm just an idiot. Basic capitalism says BUYER BEWARE. But no, you're right, it's totally a positive thing to buy a product without knowing anything about it other than who made it and what they've made before. I would usually send you a PM explaining how the industry works and how pre-ordering is more of a cherry on top instead of the foundation of funding. But y'know what... You are so bitter and so obviously upset by people disagreeing with your "perfectly sound" philosophy, it'd just fall on deaf ears. Get a job? How about get some common sense and a dignified outlook on the power you have as a consumer. Chump.
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I actually preorderd my 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT with all heated leather and a 6 speed manual site unseen. It is the best car I have ever owned.
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Edited by FromNowOn: 4/12/2017 9:40:20 PM[quote]I actually preorderd my 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT with all heated leather and a 6 speed manual site unseen. It is the best car I have ever owned.[/quote] But you'd researched the car, right? You knew what you were buying. You knew it was a 6 cylinder manual and not a 4 cylinder automatic, right? You knew it was coming with the heated leather and all that jazz. You knew the colour too... You knew [b]for sure[/b] what it was before you bought it. Can you say the same about D2? [spoiler]No you can't.[/spoiler] [spoiler]And I'm sorry, but if you bought a car without test driving it, it's because you either drove it elsewhere (a friend's car or a family member) or you are just a seriously careless consumer. You should absolutely test drive a vehicle before you buy it... What are you, 15 years old? Who advised you to buy a car without driving it first???!!!?! Just because you did that DOES NOT make it a good decision. What you did was incredibly risky, a perfect analogy for your D2 preorder. Could it end up being the best game ever? Yeah. Could it end up having the wheels fall off and the leather ripping after a month? Yeah. Hopefully you have the same LUCK with D2 as you did with your car...[/spoiler]
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It's safe to say that Destiny 2 will be similar to Destiny 1. If you did not like Destiny 1, then you shouldn't be pre-ordering Destiny 2.
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Actually both cars that I've owned. Not driven first
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[quote]Actually both cars that I've owned. Not driven first[/quote] And both of them you had researched and knew EXACTLY what you were buying. You didn't just see one trailer for the new model and called up the dealership like "Get me the new one and surprise me with the features and colour!"... I think you'd agree that it's irresponsible to be throwing money around without knowing what you're about to buy. It's about common sense, dignity, and knowing the power you have as a consumer. You obviously don't value that power and are fine with being careless with your money. THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY. But let me guess, the house you live in too right? Best house ever, no walkthrough? You just called up a realtor and slapped down 20% and said "I'll take it!" He said "I haven't shown you any houses yet.." And you said, "No worries, I trust you, plus I'm helping the future of your business!" He said, "Wow thanks" went over to the water cooler and said, "This chump doesn't even want to look at the house before buying it!" "Someone told me he bought two cars without driving them! What a chump!!!" "We can easily take advantage of consumers like him!" If you can't see that it's dangerous both as a consumer and as a business to be buying things before you know what they are, then you're hopeless. You wouldn't buy your new 2006 whatever car knowing as much about it as we know about D2. I rest my case.
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First car 2001 Saturn SC1 3 door coupe paid western union had it waiting for me after NATTC was so new I couldnt get parts for it for 6 months after it was tailgated at the NEX. I donated it in 05 to a Single Mother. Second car the Eclipse GT I saw on a magazine rack and ordered the first off the line and had it shipped to a local dealer. I bought both based on price reported mpg and looks having never seen one up close.
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And I must reiterate... YOU STILL KNEW WHAT FEATURES AND THE COLOUR AND THE ENGINE SPECS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CAR. WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN D2 GAMEPLAY YET YOU MORON!
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[quote] I donated it in 05 to a Single Mother.[/quote] Bahahahahaha man why are you so obsessed with the humble-bragging.. It's pathetic! IDGAF if you donated it to a cancer surviving rescue dog that just lost its hands in WW2, you're still an idiot for spending tens of thousands of dollars on something you saw in a magazine! You have zero dignity or common sense with your money. Keep proving my point, please!
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Must be doing something right got my own house got my own job
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[quote]Must be doing something right got my own house got my own job[/quote] So do millions of other people. At least we didn't preorder ours...
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Stuff is just stuff met my wife online having never met her we ringing up at $900 phone bill the first month and she would not let me pay it and that showed me everything I needed to know about her and she was honest and placed a value on that time that we spent on the phone
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[quote]Stuff is just stuff met my wife online having never met her we ringing up at $900 phone bill the first month and she would not let me pay it and that showed me everything I needed to know about her and she was honest and placed a value on that time that we spent on the phone[/quote] Great! So you must have known a lot about her before tying the knot eh? *cough* one trailer for D2 no gameplay no game features no idea wtf to expect *cough* Ahem, sorry, got something in my throat...
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Maybe you're coughing on your ability to cancel your pre-order after the beta
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I was coughing on my dignity as a consumer to be responsible with my money and with my influence on an industry. Both through purchasing products, and by spreading the word. I'm going to leave it at this, because this is really my gripe here... [b][i][u]If you're going to post about something, you should know wtf you're talking about.[/u][/i][/b] [spoiler]Your lack of experience and information about the industry is embarrassing and it's irresponsible to spread those lies to other impressionable people here.[/spoiler]
