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Edited by FrenetiCreature: 10/21/2016 7:53:53 PM
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Efficient Builds (Intellect/Discipline/Strength)

I know most players already know about this, but I just wanted to take a moment and explain this, because I feel like there are some players out there that still don't quite understand how to setup their build efficiently. For those that don't know, by build I mean your Intellect/Discipline/Strength setup. The reason I feel the need to make this post is mostly because I'm nosey. If there's any down-time, or just any time to take a second and inspect somebody during strikes, or in the crucible, I do. I've come across so many guardians that you could tell were new, but also people with high grimoire and light, that have their build in a mess. It just socks me that so many people either don't know how to, or just don't care about having an efficient build. OK, so first things first Intellect - this determines the cooldown (or how fast you get it in a static environment) of your super. Discipline - this determines the cooldown of your grenade. Strength - this determines the cooldown of your melee. There are 5 sub-bars (or tiers) that make up the total bar. Each tier is worth 60. The full bar is worth 300. Anything over 300 is a waste. Having a stat of 350 for your Intellect does not make your super cooldown any faster than 300. If you have anything over 300 on one of your bars (let's say your Intellect is 320), you should put the extra 20 toward another bar, either Disc. or Strength, depending on whether you like grenades or melee better, without letting your Int. go below 300. The perfect setup is having 12 of these tiers filled up. There are plenty of guides on here about how to get a 12 tier (T12) setup. Since there are 5 tiers for each stat, T12 means having 5 tiers of Int, 5 tiers of Disc, and 2 tiers of Strength all filled up. The numbers would be 300/300/120. There are other T12 setups, but the 5-5-2 is the most common. This gives you your super and grenades the soonest that you can get them, in a static environment (or how fast you'd get them by just standing still and not doing anything). The other options are 5-2-5 (Int-Disc-Strength), or 2-5-5 (Int-Disc-Strength), or even 4-4-4 (Int-Disc-Strength). But even if you can't reach a T12 setup with your gear, you can still maximize your potential by organizing your build. If you like using your super and grenades the most, then max out your Intellect and Discipline. Having a build like this: 350-110-260 is wasting the potential of those extra 50 points on your Int. Adjust it so that as many of those extra 50 points as possible are on either your Disc. or Strength. Having an efficient build isn't going to suddenly make you a top 1% player, but it will maximize the potential of your gear. The quicker you can get your Super, grenade, or melee, the more you can use it, and the more potential kills you can get. TL;DR - Pay attention to your Intellect/Discipline/Strength setup. The more efficiently you use the avaliable points from your gear, the more potential kills you can get.
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  • Can't get T12. Run multiple different T11 setups. I always maximize my setup, at worst if leveling armour i still run a T10 setup. Also have gear sets for Solar, void and arc on Hunter, warlock and titan. Inventory and vault fills quick running 3 of everything on all 3.

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    • I always prioritize Discipline. The only way I'll accept a Int/Str armor is if it's the only one of a set I have for that slot. Each of my characters can have a tier11 build with three prices of a set and one exotic.

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      • Thanks for posting this. I achieved 5-5-2 built on my Titan and Hunter like a month before RoI drop and all I can say is it made a noticeable improvement in my pvp gameplay. RoI made some changes to the stat roll on my armor initially but after infusing them to 370+ light it is all good now. For my Titan I'm working on towards a 3-5-4 built for PvE, just hope that I could get armor that fits me.

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        • You have to take into account some people use strikes to lvl gear, so let's say my stats are all screwy it might be because I'm lvling different pieces of armor for another tier build. It's smarter to have multiple pieces of armor with different stats to change your tiers on the fly.

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          • I use strikes and crucible to level up our try out gear so I don't always check my build... Guilty

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            • Haha Day One player here and I never really looked at it that way. I always stack intellect & discipline. I will have to take a closer look tomorrow so I'm not wasting it. Thanks for the post!

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            • I get the majority of my kills using my guns. I do not rely on my super, grenade, or melee for kills.

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              • Nice post bro.

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                • On my main set of Spektar Gear I have T11. Tier 1 Intellect, Tier 5 Discipline, and Tier 5 Strength with either Bad Juju or Zhalo Supercell so it works out in my favor. (I'm a PvE player.)

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                  • Tbh most of the time I look for perks and how an item looks over stat rolls.

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                    • Do you know if it's possible to get T13/14 with the Felwinter artifact?

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                      • Pve - all characters and subs max dis and strength as u will build the super easily anyway. Pvp - depends massively on subclass!

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                      • http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj172/RyanNREMTP/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1477233278177_zps47tjwngj.jpg

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                      • I go for aesthetic over stats my dear, I do try get my Int/Str maxed but sometimes beauty comes first

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                      • Personally I run 11 tiers on all builds just because I have the perks I want on all gear. But it makes me cringe seeing people with 8 or 9 tiers and like 400 intellect

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                        • I'm kinda pissed with my warlock. I have the numbers for tier 12 but it's just a few points off in distribution. Worst part is, just one piece of gear won't solve it, I'd have to get two or more new pieces to get it right.

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                          • I can have tier 14 5-5-4 on my hunter ;)

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                          • T11 (4-4-3) works just fine for me. I'd have t12 (4-4-4) by now if the gear actually had perks that matched my chosen weapon sets and had decent aesthetics.

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                            • This is a great post bringing awareness for those that don't know or pay close attention to how this works but I would point out that it's completely dependent on the gear their guardian is currently wearing and that you may not be able to reach a T12 set up without swapping something out. sometimes you may not want to swap out a piece of gear because of the other perks given - my titans adamantarium for example, don't want to give up the extra grenade or heavy capacity for str because I don't need the int or dis (just an example). I could of course use glass needles until I get it where I want it, but if I get let's say some solid boots that fix this it'd be a waste. There is the whole leveling bit too. Increasing your light takes priority and sometimes it's not worth it to infuse, infuse, infuse when you could just swap your armor for 10-20 minutes until something higher drops and infuse once it's worth it (5-10 light above what you are infusing it into).

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                              • 304 int. 302 discipline and 81 str. (Tier 1) I'm all set with this tier 11 build

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                              • Edited by Il TOMMY lI: 10/22/2016 9:39:08 PM
                                If you use the ishtar commander app to transfer your gear between characters it shows the armor ratings by placing a gold silver or bronze mark next to the armor. Gold = t12/t13, silver= t11, Bronze = T10 Its the best app for destiny

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                                • Hunter: Intellect strength. Throwing knives are invaluable and their supers are the best on pvp. Before everything was nerfed. Titan: Intellect discipline. Grenades are good and supers are useful. Defender especially benefits the most it's downright annoying to the enemy. Warlock: Discipline strength. Depends on your build warlocks usually benefit a lot from melee such as flame shield or energy drain. They synergies and refill the super with their own benefit.

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                                  • Only reason my discipline is so high is because armamentarium boosts it really high. I've tried to take some discipline and put it into int or str but it didn't make a difference.

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                                  • I've got 533 on my Titan and 343 on my Warlock and Hunter. I'll probably get to T12 eventually, but for now I will be at a filthy T11.

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                                  • Edited by SittingDuck2015: 10/22/2016 10:58:40 PM
                                    Lol, I've got a t13 hunter. Might as well be t10, what with the artifact I needed to use to get t13, but oh well. Edit: yes I realize that attire is ugly af, but the stats are there so I can't really complain.

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                                    • http://seraphimvault.com/ this site is pretty good. some people probably know something better.

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