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10/5/2016 3:39:28 PM
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You may think we're the ones getting screwed and we have a little bit of the same problem you have with immigration from the lower continent but you guys are losing your culture you're losing your religion you've already lost your ability to defend yourselves you have no money because your government takes it all for healthcare which it does a very poor job managing and you have absolutely no national defense left. If somebody comes out of the Middle East or Eastern Europe and decides to do what Stalin try to do or Hitler tried to do your country will have absolutely no way of Defending itself and as screwed up as the United States might get there is no question that if it came down to it we would be the ones kicking ass taking names and winning any War.
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  • Edited by HandalR: 10/5/2016 4:16:54 PM
    The UK voted to leave the EU and will have done the deed by 2019. We're losing our religion because on mass we are intelligent enough to know that religion is for fools quite frankly. Typical American bash the NHS - yes we look after our citizens, no we won't throw dying men, women and children out onto the street if they can't pay, no we won't deny support and care for the disabled because they can't pay and no we won't spend every dime on guns and bombs at the expense of the people that live here. All things that I can very proudly say. The selfish nature of most Americans never ceases to amaze me. I guess you are the most hypocritical people on the face of the earth especially with the whole "land of the free" bullshit. Everything with you people comes down to war eh? Fine. The fact that you think the middle east has the capacity to invade the UK is hilarious and given whats happening in parts over there is quite immature. I can only assume by eastern europe you mean Russia because again no other eastern european country has the capacity to invade the UK. And our nuclear deterrent covers off that threat entirely. This is the problem with trying to have a rational discussion with the average American, inevitably you start saying the silliest things and people just give up. Disclaimer: I realise the above doesn't apply to all Americans.

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  • You are actively being invaded by the middle east. We also do not deny services to anyone without any money, since the 70s. You think Nukes will stop the useful idiots from slowly converting your laws to socialism? Russia has only to wait another 50 years you're halfway there. I got news for you. When the burden of thousands of new families from the mid east that only pay into your system for a few years crushes your society Russia won't fire a shot. Without faith the ruling class will be overcome by a united caliphate that will ultimately divide your parliament. Islam will defeat you by rule of law, eventually elections and your own compassion. Once they have majority you will be forced to abide by their laws. We are not far behind you but we have guns in our pockets and no one will ever be able to stop them. We have multiple faiths to oppose a single rule and cannot be lumped together. "Behind every blade of grass."

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  • This is why everyone says american news media is shit, clearly you've never left your home town in the middle of nowhere and form your opinions on that basis. My advice? Don't believe all the crap you've read, experience the world for yourself and form your own opinions. I've been all over Europe and the US and I can tell you fact you are so so wrong. Unfortunately the problems you say we have don't exist and you have absolutely no evidence to support anything you just said. While your very real problems with children massacring each other in your school's with firearms goes entirely unnoticed. And you suggest I'm the one that can't see whats really going on. Americans wanted slavery long after we condemned and banned it. It seems like it will take you even longer to realise just how socially far behind us you really are.

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  • I'm an Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom US Navy Veteran. After my 5 years in the theater I came home honorably discharged for medical reasons in 2004. Since I have been an OTR Hazardous Materials Truck Driver and Instructor with TSA Clearance and have been on every mile of US and Interstate Highway in US/Canada over 5 million miles accident free.

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  • Nice you totally dodged the issue there.

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  • Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still. You can't be reasoned with you're just going to result to disrespect and assumptions about the character of your opponent. So this is the last response you get for me enjoy.

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  • Disrespect? The issue in discussion is the social condition of the United States. You totally ignored that and brought up something completely irrelevant like your service history and the amount of miles you have driven. If you can't defend your position fine, but don't make frail attempts to turn that around on me.

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  • [quote] clearly you've never left your home town in the middle of nowhere[/quote]

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  • Edited by HandalR: 10/6/2016 2:35:43 PM
    I still don't see how that one half of a sentence in this entire discussion means you should go totally off topic and try to turn the discussion into something about you? Unless of course you can't actually argue the case of the real issue. Then I can see why you would try to change the direction of the conversation and focus on this instead. But I'll humor you - fair enough you aren't a small town hick and so must have seen first hand there is not a single shred of evidence to give credibility to anything you said. Everything you said regarding Europe and the UK is nothing but speculation on your part. Americans like yourself are obsessing over a problem that doesn't actually exist while ignoring the ACTUAL day in day out problems that you face. Chief among those issues would be things like - lack of any real healthcare system, frequent mass shootings particularly in schools, ghettos in a country with the largest economy in the world. All things that Trump would only worsen because he is a billion dollar businessman who doesn't care about issues like that he has never had to face them nor will he ever. I mean honestly when you say things like - "we have guns in our pockets and no one will ever be able to stop them. We have multiple faiths to oppose a single rule and cannot be lumped together." do you actually believe that or do you just want to pretend for 5 seconds that you are in some sort of hollywood movie about freedom, liberty and the ameri...blahblahblah?

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  • Its sad how blinded you are by your government

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  • You should really go do your time, earn an honorable discharge, and see life from both hemispheres before you form an opinion. I have perspective. The only people who are blind are the ones living in a Matrix surrounded on all sides by a system that is the only source of all their needs. You know, like Europe.

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