*sigh* ... ok i can get that you have to clear the raid twice, thats a bit excessive but i can get it. but why [b]REQUIRE[/b] a fire team of 1 hunter 1 warlock and 1 titan to complete the quest for not 1 step, BUT 3!? thats insanity, wish bungie would figure out already not everyone has 40000 friends that play this game... that puts a HARD time limit on this quest, considering once a certan number of people get it, and the only people doing the raid anymore are people who have this, alot of people are screwed... wonderful... as if the grind to get to the raid wasn't bad enough, now i get to find 6-18 random people to get this stupid thing... can't wait for people to start requiring it to join raid groups!