I used to be that guy who could not get one single kill in Pvp I couldnt think and act according to the situation as quickly as others its a good system for learning how to play against differnt types of teams how to adapt to the situation after I learned how to counter anyones weapons i did great I've always been a Pvper being cod or battlefield I did it all but destiny has that one thing a Pvper needs and that's improvement it's how u learn after I learned to react and counter I've been flawless 5 times Its all persistence trial and error baby no matter what way they do it it all about how u handle it now Red bars are a joke and a hole nother story and u can't control the situation that's what they need to fix i report every true red bar I find but nothing ever changes that should be there main focus on Pvp not buffs and nerfs