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8/31/2016 2:24:35 PM
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I was really bad at PvP. Blue weapons, getting blink shotgunned and sniped every life. I had a .4 kd Slowly, I got better to the point I had a 1.4 You get better playing people with good connections that are all over the spectrum (mostly better) than by playing similar players with lag. The only thing stopping you from improving is yourself with cbmm, as lag is much much less frequent. CBMM also makes playing with friends much more fun.
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  • This is my main argument against SBMM. And it's also my personal thought that I would rather play a less laggy game against a better opponent than one with someone who I feel like I should be beating if they weren't blessed by the almighty lag.

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  • Agreed. Knowing that the only reason I was getting shit on was because they were better than me not laggy is a good thing. I picked up how they blink shotty, how they prenade, the way they strafe, etc.

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  • Except that 1) It's fact that the best way to improve at anything competitive is to play against people with a similar range of skills. 2) Lag isn't as much of an issue when you're in the middle of the bell curve.

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  • You are incorrect. The best way to improve is to play/learn from people better or more knowledgeable. We learn nothing playing against people who are the same level. We stay right there with them. This is a lesson learned in all areas of life. More talented or trained people, stretches our minds and imagination and gets us to try things we have never thought of or seen. All sbmm does is remove the fun for most of the top half of players and make the lower players think they are good, until they play with a friend and get destroyed. My son plays by himself a lot. Top of leader board with 18-8 type numbers. He will say he is ready to play with me and my friends. When he plays with us he goes 4-18. Which is no fun for him and why he rarely plays with us any more. Sbmm made it so friends and family, who are on different levels, cant enjoy the game together.

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  • Go have a discussion with the coach of your choice, and ask him or her if the best way to teach the elementary team is by having them skirmish the high school starters, or if much learning would happen if those high school starters skirmished a college or pro team. I guarantee the answer is that no learning would take place. It's why literally every sport on the planet is divided into leagues...SBMM, if you will. Plus, SBMM has enough built-in latitude, especially now, that there are plenty of opportunities to play better people and learn without being overwhelmed.

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  • When I was in high school, our football coaches always tried to make our pre season rough as shit, often trying to get games with teams that went deep in playoffs the year before in a division above us. Similar to how our wrestling coach made sure to take us to big tournaments with the largest/best schools in the state before we got to districts. There was a skill gap, but it was surmountable, we got better because of it. Alot of the players in Destiny however think that you can "git gud" by playing tier 1 players when you have a negative kd. It doesn't work like that, getting stomped into the ground won't teach you anything, basically if you don't present even a mild challenge to your opponent, then neither of you will gain from it

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  • This. SBMM, especially recently, has plenty of latitude for good learning to take place.

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  • You are wrong. I played high level in 2 sports and have coached. We get better playing against higher levels.

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  • Only to a certain point, which SBMM already accommodates. Sure, you have the JV skirmish against the varsity. But you don't have the high school team skirmish against a college team, or a pro team. No learning would take place. There's a reason every sport everywhere has different levels of competition. I played NCAA Division I sports, btw, if that's suddenly a prereq.

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  • Yeah that makes a lot of sense, playing Trashcans will make you better. I'm not saying you play t1s every game, because CBMM doesn't match you like that. But playing players that are better than you, you pick up things. When they challenge. If they prenade. You can only improve your gunskill by going against bad players. Game knowledge comes for playing with and against players that are better than

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  • Indeed! It's easier for most people to learn though first hand experience what is more effective than just playing against people who are likely to make the same playstyle mistakes as you are.

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