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8/31/2016 9:57:11 AM
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Games are matched to balance win ratio to a 50/50 rate. In order to do this, some teams have to have bad players thrown in to bring their win ratio down. It's not open to interpretation, it's a fact, and that's not SBMM.
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  • Edited by Truthiness_Inc: 8/31/2016 10:01:42 AM
    [quote]Games are matched to balance win ratio to a 50/50 rate. In order to do this, some teams have to have bad players thrown in to bring their win ratio down. It's not open to interpretation[/quote]So games are matched according to other players skills as opposed to your own...like you say. So that IS exactly the definition of SBMM and no there isn't room for interpretation as it is a reality. Bungie talks about how there is SBMM all the time. Stay ignorant if you want but don't talk out of your ass if you don't know. It doesn't work to the benefit of anyone but it IS there.

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  • That's not SBMM, SBMM segregates player pools. This is win rate balancing, games aren't matched to allow low skilled players a fair chance, they're added to games as kill fodder for the enemy team to give them a chance against better players. And bungie talks about how they cater to connection quality above all else.

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  • Edited by Truthiness_Inc: 8/31/2016 10:06:27 AM
    [quote]That's not SBMM, SBMM segregates player pools.[/quote]Lol who told you that's what SBMM is?[quote]This is win rate balancing, games aren't matched to allow low skilled players a fair chance, they're added to games as kill fodder for the enemy team to give them a chance against better players. [/quote]Yeah duh and they do this with what they figure are factors adding up to "skill" that then affects matchmaking.[quote]And bungie talks about how they cater to connection quality above all else.[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no they absolutly do NOT talk about that. Citation needed.

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  • That's exactly what it is, just because skill is used as a factor in win rate balancing (it's used as a factor in all matchmaking settings) doesn't mean it's entirely skill-based. SBMM is essentially 'ranked' playlists, where low levels only go up against low levels, and also goes for high level players. They never mix. https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/44422/7_Destiny-Hot-Fix---03082016 This update states that they've added changes as a continuation from January's updates which made connection quality top priority in core playlists across all playlists. Settings have changed since then to only make connection quality more strict.

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  • Your abitrary idea of what skill based match making is doesn't matter. The matchmaking is based around skill. That makes it skill based...

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  • It's not based around skill, it's a factor, that doesn't mean it's skill-based, it means it's a factor. All matchmaking settings factor in skill, but that doesn't make all matchmaking settings skill-based. Every time there's someone on your team who gets a 0.3kd, you can assume that their skill was not the deciding factor in the decision to pair them with you. They were used to bring your win ratio down to 50%.

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  • [quote]Every time there's someone on your team who gets a 0.3kd, you can assume that their skill was not the deciding factor in the decision to pair them with you. They were used to bring your win ratio down to 50%.[/quote]Because they were low SKILL this is still skill based. I'm blocking you. Go be ignorant at someone else.

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  • By that logic, it could be argued that any form of matchmaking is Skill Based. This isn't hard to work out. Or at least I thought it wasn't, people keep surprising me.

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