[quote]1) Spike Grenades are every bit as effective as Lightning Grenades, you just need to learn how to use them. 2) yes, Titans can get double Lightning Grenades, but Hunters can have double smoke grenades 3) Shoulder Charge... Smoke... Shoulder Charge... Smoke... They have theirs, (we) have ours 4) I say (we) because I've really been enjoying playing a Hunter again, but it's really pretty embarrassing to be associated with so much crying when every class (except maybe the poor nerfed Sunsingers) have advantages that make them great.[/quote] 1. Yes, but they are way easier to get out of than Lightning nades. 2. Smoke is a melee, and not really a direct comparison to Lightning nade. 3. Sigh, SC is also not the same as smoke. Really not seeing the comparison, personally. 4. It's funny, cause most of the nerf posts I've been seeing lately is from lock mains, so don't know why this is even being made a point..... I'm going to be honest here, but I'm absolutely sick and fn tired of this "blame the hunters" epidemic that goes on around these forums. What's worse is when it finally starts to die off, there's posts like this that just start the crap over again. Why do we need to sit here and continuously act in this manner? What point does this make, by continuing to go alienating a class just because of a few? Normally I don't get annoyed at this crap, but enough is enough already.