okay I will debate. Snipers are totally fine. (Idon't use them by the way). What isn't fine is that bungie has nerfed every single last challenge to snipers from the game. Shotguns nerfed like 9 times. Now they actually cause you to move slower when equipped????WTF Next primaries. Nirwen's would challenge snipers. Gone, MIDA would challenge snipers. High caliber rounds removed. The list is extensive. We always had challenges. That is what kept snipers from dominating the game. You see to add nerfs to counter nerfs is a loosing game. Bungie and their butt buddies who stream pvp like things just fine this way. They can have drunk sherpa lighthouse night with no way anything can challenge someone with good map skills and a sniper rifle. What we need to do is demand that primary weapons are buffed to the point where they offer some serious resistance to snipers so that two shot body shot sniping isn't something that will always beat someone with a primary. I like your point as you see I said I don't use snipers. the thing is nerfing them isn't the answer. It is just a continuation of the problem.