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4/28/2016 9:03:57 PM
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Because the moment the wombo combo is gone is the moment that the Nightstalker grenades and melee charge become very subpar. The grenades by themselves are all pretty bad unless the enemy just stands there in it. And smoke doesn't really do much damage itself. The extra effects are what makes it useful. Expending both together makes it lethal. Which is the trade off. You have to use both of your charges for 1 kill. You also have to spec the Envenomed and Lockdown perks for it to be effective. And it does require accuracy if you want to do more than just wound your target, aka you need to land it at their feet so that they can't escape.
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Edited by Hawpy: 4/28/2016 10:57:40 PM[quote]Because the moment the wombo combo is gone is the moment that the Nightstalker grenades and melee charge become very subpar.[/quote] Do you remember that time after Nothing Manacles were nerfed? Voidwalkers had to put up with grenades that were all worse than what Nightstalker has, a less effective Super and a worse melee? Before anyone argues that Axion Bolts are good, you can slide into them and they'll do about a small fraction of the damage they're supposed to deal. You can destroy them too. Or simply run away, they're slower than the lowest sprint speed. [quote]And smoke doesn't really do much damage itself. The extra effects are what makes it useful.[/quote] Your point being? Firebolts without the burn are a very good contender for "worst grenade in the game", doesn't mean that the added effects have no impact on how the whole thing is perceived.
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Nothing Manacles should have never been nerfed to begin with. But Scatter Grenades are still pretty good with them. Just not as much as they used to be. I would know because I always use them. And Firebolt isn't OP either. Viking Funeral is OP only because of how long it makes the burn last. It would be fine if the Firebolt burn perk combo did the same amount of total damage but over a shorter period of time. Being locked out of combat for 10+ seconds is nonsense.
