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4/9/2016 6:47:27 PM
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As much as there will probably be different ways to complete it this annoys me more than any nerf so far, even the ones to icebreaker and Gjallarhorn. This just feels like an insult, even though i'll still play it this just pisses me off and feels unneeded.
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  • It does feel harsh, want to see how drops are now "improved"

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  • The increased drops will make it fine for encounters such as strikes, oryx and sisters. however i worry about encounters such as the warpriest, Golgoroth and worst for me, PoE. As far as i can remember most of the PoE boss encounters were built around short damage phases, such as Urrox, Qodron and the pilot servitor. This is what annoys me they're resurrecting a mode that was built around short damage phases whilst reducing the capability of snipers for these damage phases. At least we still have sleeper simulant and the old y1 snipers.

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  • Bungie and their BS. Reducing ammo for PVE also is artificial difficulty because they suck at programming an actual challenging boss encounter.

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  • I hate to think this way, but it is something that crossed my mind. I wasn't buying the idea that it came because of PvP. I sometimes feel like they hide their PvE intentions by bringing up PvP stats and graphs. There were other ways to address this. I'm not a developer, but if this was about PvP it seems like the better move would have been to limit how much ammo a person can grab from a crate at a time. The same way they were able to go in and eliminate ammo at the start of each PvP match for Trials, while not hitting PvE. IMO this move was more about preventing us from killing Warpriest and Golgoroth in 2 rounds or less.

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  • Finally someone else that thinks that!

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  • Excellent post. That would have been the PVP solution. Secondary and heavy have ammo restrictions in Crucible. So Bungie is either pre school level programmers or this is how they extend the PVE grind? Something that really made me feel this is that Bungie said the new Challenge of Elders is 16 weeks of new fights with the modifier combinations. Then they nerf the most effective weapons for boss DPS with the ammo reduction. Also in reference to Warpriest and Golgoroth Bungie has now created a system where trying to help a lower level guardian may not work. If you are going to need full extra rounds those 3 man clutches are going to be much harder. If the intention was to make these fights harder they could have just scaled up the fight's light level.

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