Iron Banner has improved a lot over the course of Destiny's lifespan. They have made a lot of additions to it and it's now more enjoyable than never, even when it's far from perfect and there are still awful things about it. [quote]if their priority is PVP and they're so great but simply choose to ignore PVE out of spite or w/e, then why the hell is PVP still a broken mess? Why is MM and lag still borked? Why are classes still wildly unbalanced? Why are weapons also embarrassingly unbalanced beyond repair[/quote] C'mon that's pure hyperbole. PvE is not ignored, they actually have fixed a lot of PvE content, they have addressed plenty of stuff and each expansion/update they release PvE content. The same goes for PvP, is not a "broken mess" it's still fully playable and enjoyable, even with its many flaws. If it were really unplayable it would have happened the same that happened to Halo 2 Anniversary. I don't really feel like mentioning your other points because they're really exaggerated. Think of this as you will, maybe we can agree to disagree and end this.