And my point is people are moaning they wont do warpriest or the ogre in one or two dps stages and what im saying is so what? They arent designed to be done that fast but i know that people will think of ways to rotate weapons and strats to ensure they still breeze through them. I never pop a heavy synth in kings fall, but now its viable as I wont rely on my special 100% of the time. I use sleeper for warpriest with 1000 yrd, and spindle for ogre with quillems, and special never drops at the mo in the raid for me.