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3/31/2016 7:57:07 AM
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Considering they're still in the armory, I'd say they still exist.
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Plenty of other things exist in the armory that aren't in the actual game. That doesn't mean they have a release date.
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They may still be released, but I think everyone was really excited for them. Bungie screwed up on this.
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Lol why are they there then?
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Thought I responded to this. Because it's easier to leave the prototypes there and never finish them than to remove them. It's not like the database was ever intended to be customer-facing.
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Then why is it available to everyone who uses the site (presumable customers?)
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Because they were too lazy to filter out the bad results when they designed the interface to their internal dB.
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It's typically speculated that you can play the things in gameplay trailers, yes. I don't usually see things in a trailer and think, "neat, I wonder what that game is like. Maybe it's a turn based strategy or top-down RTS"
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Things change from trailers all the time. It's hardly an uncommon phenomenon.
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You must not have eyeballs considering they were advertised with the purchase of TTK.
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They made an appearance in the trailer. Lists of gear made out to the trailer before dying.
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Edited by H_TOWN_BALLA_80: 3/31/2016 1:32:08 PMYou're totally right. Having them in the official launch trailer and in the armory = total speculation. Borderline conspiracy theory even I would wager based on how you view this and other subjects. Thanks for clarifying fap fap.
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lol Gold
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yeam8. Things shown in trailers change. Armory means that the concept for something was once fleshed out, but doesn't prove its existence.
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Your a -blam!-in dumb bitch
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U3 fag
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That would be a convenient explanation had that trailer been at an E3 show case while the actual game was still in development years away from being done. It doesn't fly here since that trailer was right before a mediocre at best sized DLC dropped AND the items are in the armory. They should have/would have been removed if removed from game. That explanation does not fly. It seems to me that you would make an argument that the sky is not blue somehow, even though it is. Like, there would be some long Reddit style thesis with some nuanced argument trying to stretch for it.
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Edited by Smithy: 3/31/2016 6:37:04 PMJust like the loot drop boosters were removed from the armory, yeah? Or that microphone gun? It's far easier just to leave that in and not allow users to access it than to remove it.
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These are not analogous examples or situations at all. Drop boosters were not in any trailers that I am aware of for the DLC itself. The Exotics were. Again, if the Exotics were shown in some E3 video, that's one thing. Any gamer should know that all of that could change as it's still in development. A trailer, basically a commercial for a product that includes something even visually, better be there at release. This was not some E3 demo, this was a commercial, encouraging you to buy the DLC, that visually showed things heavily implied to be in said product/game/DLC. As to your point about things that were removed still being in the armory, the fact that you state it was "removed" clearly shows it existed and was there to begin with (and being in the armory illustrates). So they removed it and left the carcass in the armory, that's fine. But it was "removed" meaning it did exist and was taken out. Even if that is the same thing with the Exotics, that means they were A) advertised to be in a product you had to spend money on and B) were "removed" further illustrating (along with the armory) that they should have been in game by now (or by some point in the TTK life cycle).
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[quote]Drop boosters were not in any trailers that I am aware of[/quote] Because a fancy-faced helmet looks interesting. A person popping a consumable ins't. [quote]A trailer, basically a commercial for a product that includes something even visually, better be there at release.[/quote] Ideally, but it's not like Bungie (and other devs) haven't changed things from commercials in the past. [quote]the fact that you state it was "removed" clearly shows it existed [/quote] The concept existed. Clearly the 3D models do. But the gear as a whole may have not. This is not a hard concept.
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Edited by H_TOWN_BALLA_80: 3/31/2016 7:08:35 PMDoesn't matter which is more interesting. The Exotics were in a commercial for a product. /end I can't think of too many "finished game" commercials I have seem where something changed this drastically/impactfully. E3 demos, yes. Actual commercials for a game or DLC that comes out in the next month or so (the usual advertising time frame before launch), no, not really. I do recall seeing game (and other product) commercials that have fine print on the screen that said product is subject to change and I don't recall that being in this commerial. Again, this is a commercial, not a game demo. One is a work in progress. One is advertising to get you to spend money. This is not a hard concept as you say about the next item. Neither you nor I know what actually did or did not exist. In my argument, I at least have visual evidence of said items being used and a strong implication of them existing, fully realized. Your position seems to be "i pulled this out of thin air" argument with no even anecdotal evidence. Not a hard concept indeed.
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[quote]Doesn't matter which is more interesting. The Exotics were in a commercial for a product[/quote] It does, because they won't waste commercial time on something boring. Where were all the TTK commercials advertising the gunsmith? There were zero, because explosions are more interesting. [quote] I at least have visual evidence of said items being used[/quote] You have strong visual evidence of them existing visually. If I build a fancy-ass box and tell you it's a teleporter, without turning it on, you have no reason to believe me. Similarly, we saw none of the predicted effects of the exotics in the trailer, only that their models exist. Thus, it could very well be the case that the art department finished their work, but the game designers were still working on the perks.
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"Fleshed out" "doesn't prove its existence" I hope you realise 4 of the missing exotics featured in the trailer are fully rendered and not missing any textures. I think the fact that they featured in the pre-release trailer prove they exist.
