[quote]Actually I've proven my point multiple times. In simply trying to argue physics and history with people who want to argue emotion and fantasy. ------- We have to use the laws of physics in order to try and rationalize their abilities or we have no way to compare them. ------- Once the OP invoke "logic" (which ==rationality== science) this debate was over. ------- We can except a little bit of magic but we have to be rational. ------- Spartans fight in a fictional universe of the scientifically plausible fighting other beings doing things that are scientifically plausible. Even if it's a million years in our future. ------- Very little of it is actually scientifically plausible as I've shown many times, as it defies the laws of physics. ------- Guardians fight in a fictional universe of MAGIC. Where beings routinely do things that are scientifically IMPOSSIBLE against other beings doing the scientifically impossible. ------- Both do. ------- Channeling the power of a machine/entity that terra-formed two planets that are hot enough to melt Lead...once of which is exposed to enough radiation to scour the planet of ANY atmosphere it might think of having. ------- The but they don't channel all of its energy individually. ------- The only thing that is keeping this conversation going is hero worship for The Master Chief. ------- No it's you ignoring the facts. ------- Full stop.[/quote]