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3/6/2016 5:57:04 PM
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I guess I'd say it's OP if Sunsinger was any good without them.
Sunsinger is straightforward. Excellent grenade, excellent melee ability, & that's it.
There is no extra passives that help out like Pulsewave, Shadestep, Keen Scout, Shoulder Charge, Cauterize, QuickDraw, Invis...
Nothing. Sunsingers literally have no extra abilities that make them cool. They have a fantastic grenade and melee and that's it. And to add to this, their super game is literally the exact same as their neutral game. Without those firebolts w. VF + ToF Radiance is trash too.
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Edited by OJ191: 3/6/2016 9:16:11 PMuhh just because it's all a class has doesn't make something not OP It just means that instead of leaving it OP maybe bungie should actually give them cool shit to replace the OP. Maybe if they did that they could remove the -blam!-ing one shot scorch melee while they're at it.
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[quote]uhh just because it's all a class has doesn't make something not OP It just means that instead of leaving it OP maybe bungie should actually give them cool shit to replace the OP. Maybe if they did that they could remove the -blam!-ing one shot scorch melee while they're at it.[/quote] So you want to remove their super? Scorch doesnt one shot you unless its in super or you are running the lowest armor build on a hunter.
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that's a nice opinion. But I respectfully disagree
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Edited by OJ191: 3/6/2016 10:50:18 PMcome on, surely you would rather sunsinger had more interesting cool and useful tools than just relying on firebolt and self res (sometimes radiant skin if you're a bit of a sunsinger hipster, not that it's bad, just nobody uses it anymore for some reason.) cheese all day every day.
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Who uses self res in crucible? Radiant skin is the way to go, unless you are doing trials. In the 6v6 playlists radiant skin is the way better choice. When you self Rez you are left open to the shotgun melee combo or a sniper shot to the head.
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i basically never see people run radiant skin. ever. except my one friend who always uses it.
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Nah, not at all. I'd pretty disappointed if Sunsingers got nerfed. I don't think they will be. Only thing I'd change is how long burn lasts. I'd keep the damage the same, but over less time so people aren't out of the fight for 10+ seconds. That's it. Sunsinger is a powerful subclass. It has pros & cons just like every other subclass. I think class balance as a whole is in a great spot right now. The only main issue in my opinion is that specific things need to be fixed that are holding subclasses back. Hit registration is terrible on Bladedancer & Sunbreaker. If it were back to normal, then they'd be viable subclass options again. Other than that & other minor issues, class balance is perfect to me. & every class plays very specific roles in terms of competitive play.
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Edited by OJ191: 3/6/2016 11:18:52 PMI'm not suggesting that they be nerfed outright, rather that they be rebalanced to be less binary. Typically at present either their class tools wreck the enemy/enemy team, or are borderline useless, depending on exactly how shit goes down. And give them some cool alternatives to choose from while we're at it. For example we could buff firebolts back to pre-nerf radius, then make the damage and burn damage stronger/weaker the closer/further you are from the point of impact. And double the burn damage but halve the duration. We could make scorch melee only one-shot in radiance at point blank range. But then make the overshield stronger the closer to point blank you are. Max range scorch melee would be current or only slightly lesser shield value. Just as some brief ideas. I got no idea what cool alternatives we would add though at this point. Maybe we could make angel of mercy (or w/e it's called, the one that lets you float while ads mid-air) cause bullets to ignite enemies? risk vs reward, you're exposed but more dangerous.
