I get ur guys point both races are very old but it is not possible to come before time. It goes against they physical, mathematical and hypothetical definition of time i dont give a shit what either games lore says. Also due to general relatively it is possible that even though a race has been around for billions of years there could be someone who relative to them has been around for a few seconds or much longer. Example based on earths location and speed the universe for us is 13.5 billion years old but elsewhere it could be 100 billion years old or even less than a minute old. Point is if one species predates everyone else in their part of the universe that does not mean they predate life elsewhere