[quote]Probably halo. 1 if you count the rings themselves they would kill everyone 2 the flood 3 the didac and his disintegrating powers 4 the precursors and forerunners could control gravity and create life so limitless armies 5 destiny guardians take to long to fly from place to place cause loading screens while halo ships can travel insanely fast so the mobility advantage they gain is enormous 6 that moment when the friendly cpus stops slacking and one shots you when u piss them off by shooting them. If the halo universe went try hard like that they would win 7 guardians lose because of infighting between the classes and subclasses 8 vanguard leaders give shit and blatant advice 9 spartans are smarter and faster and stronger so any physical movement a guardian can make they can do better 10 spartans have better training 11armorlock glitch 12 forge mode 13 spartans fought off alien invasion while guardians lost all but one city 14 forger makes nova special effect blinds guardians or just sets damage resistance to invincible 15 spartans can preform an assassination 16 evade with max move speed and min gravity can travel miles in an instant on foot 17 bubble shields defense> defender 18 hornet= overpowered 19 atheon cant move 20 warlock jumps 21 guardians are scared of the dark 22 u cant nerf master chief 23 what if a flood took over a guardian a self ressing flood or what if one took over oryx 24 cpus have infinite ammo 25 all previous and future evidence is inconsequential in the face of a grave mind who alone could destroy the halo and destiny universes working together as long as he does not make a dumb mistake[/quote]

Halo bubbles are not as good as a defender bubble.

Proof?

Halo bubbles will go away after they take a certain amount of damage, destiny ones can take an infinite amount of damage although they do go away after a while.

That's gameplay, we are using lore.

Well what does the lore say about halo bubbles?

Nothing really. They might just be a gameplay mechanic, so idk if we should consider them.

Yeah I had just noticed that the post by Phoenix said that halo bubbles are better and I don't think they are.

Yes they are. Halo bubbles can only be destroyed by the inside. A railgun would take down a defender bubble

They are not invincible in lore.

OK then armor Lock beats everything thrown at it. In lore armor Lock makes the spartan invincible, but I don't know if we are going off of lore or game play.

That's gameplay not lore. We are going by lore.

In lore it makes them invincible too

No it doesn't, it doesn't even exist in lore as we see it in the games.

Yes it does exist in lore. Look it up. I've looked it up myself. Just because it exist in the game doesn't mean its not in lore

[quote]Probably halo. 1 if you count the rings themselves they would kill everyone 2 the flood 3 the didac and his disintegrating powers ------- He won't win this by himself ------- 4 the precursors and forerunners could control gravity and create life so limitless armies ------- Only Precursors created life. Also both control reality as a whole. ------- 5 destiny guardians take to long to fly from place to place cause loading screens while halo ships can travel insanely fast so the mobility advantage they gain is enormous ------- UNSC ships cap at around 900 ly per day, so not instant travel. ------- 6 that moment when the friendly cpus stops slacking and one shots you when u piss them off by shooting them. If the halo universe went try hard like that they would win ------- That's gameplay, not canon. ------- 7 guardians lose because of infighting between the classes and subclasses ------- They don't fight outside of Crucible. Which is a competition. ------- 8 vanguard leaders give shit and blatant advice ------- Maybe. :p ------- 9 spartans are smarter and faster and stronger so any physical movement a guardian can make they can do better ------- Maybe. ------- 10 spartans have better training ------- Maybe ------- 11armorlock glitch ------- Gameplay ------- 12 forge mode ------- Gameplay ------- 13 spartans fought off alien invasion while guardians lost all but one city ------- They never fought off invasions, worlds were lost because the ground battles mean nothing when the Covenant had space. ------- 14 forger makes nova special effect blinds guardians or just sets damage resistance to invincible ------- Gameplay ------- 15 spartans can preform an assassination ------- So? ------- 16 evade with max move speed and min gravity can travel miles in an instant on foot 17 bubble shields defense> defender 18 hornet= overpowered 19 atheon cant move 20 warlock jumps 21 guardians are scared of the dark 22 u cant nerf master chief ------- This is all gameplay and not relevant. ------- 23 what if a flood took over a guardian a self ressing flood or what if one took over oryx ------- Could they take over Oryx? ------- 24 cpus have infinite ammo 25 all previous and future evidence is inconsequential in the face of a grave mind who alone could destroy the halo and destiny universes working together as long as he does not make a dumb mistake[/quote] ------- This is all gameplay and not relevant. -------

Lore wise gravemind still wins the rest of it was for entertainment/i was bored so yeah And actually if u read it a lot was not just gameplay also many of those maybes u put could be argued as yes more easily than no [spoiler]#thundermuffin[/spoiler]