[quote]you will and deserve to be ignored by bungie forever[/quote] If that doesn't mean "never listen" then... [quote]kids are just calling names and talking shit[/quote] So far, I have not see these "kids" talk shit that much. Just pointing out observations and receiving over-reactions. And quite a few of their claims are legitimate. Sadly enough, people like you would call just about any kind of feedback as childish and insulting. And I can find that even those who are being insulting and childish towards Bungie have their reasons. And seeing the same acts repeat should say something. [quote]But if you are gonna say they never listen to the community you deserve to be ignored.[/quote] We asked that Iron Banner should never be Rift and then they gave us Rift for Iron Banner. (not this Iron Banner) There was also the 0.04% auto-rifle buff. For weeks people were talking about the new auto-rifle buff and when the patch came, they claimed it was a typo. If they had listened to the community they would be wondering where the community got the numbers of 4% buffs. They would have noticed the "typo" much earlier, fixed it, and that disaster would've been less hateful. The trend of "Bungie not listening" didn't come from me, but from a lot of people, people who noticed it happened. Yes they have shown that they can "bro" but not enough. Like being a "bro" every few months doesn't really help a relationship. Not only did they not listen at times, but they have also flat out lied to us which makes that relationship even worse. One such lie was that Bungie claimed to have not made any changes to matchmaking, several months later and they come out and say they did make changes but didn't want to tell anyone for "better data." That pissed off a lot of people. And that wasn't Bungie's only lie, that makes people not trust anything Bungie says anymore. I for one have lost their trust a long time ago. In your eyes, posts like these: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/182264454/0/0 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/152367546/0/0 would deserve to be ignored because I believed that Bungie didn't listen at several points.