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The hive have structure though, a society behind them. The flood are just super zombies. Flood would never do something like hollow out the moon to make a cool man cave for their demi-god. Stuff like that takes time, and the hive love to take it slow. How long was crota chilling in the moon not invading earth? If thats how hive conquer new territory its no wonder it took them a thousand years to reach their current status. In the end the hive are smart, have magic, have organization, and gods who can only die under specific circumstances which the flood would struggle with.
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  • [quote]If thats how hive conquer new territory its no wonder it took them a thousand years to reach their current status.[/quote]That's actually not typical. Before the Hive chased the Traveler to Earth, Oryx was erasing civilizations across the galaxy in massive interstellar conflicts. Their entrenchment on the Moon is due to them knowing of the Traveler's power, so they instead gather their forces. [quote]In the end the hive are smart[/quote]As are the Flood. You seem to not know of Graveminds or Keyminds, which act as centralized intelligences for Flood. [quote]have magic[/quote]Esoteric sciences is not out of the realm of the Flood. [quote]have organization[/quote]They require organization because each individual Hive thinks on its own. The Flood do not require organization like that because the Graveminds have immediate and direct control over all of their forces, making them an extension of the Gravemind itself. [quote]gods who can only die under specific circumstances which the flood would struggle with.[/quote]Yes, but they can die. Graveminds literally can't die. You can kill and obliterate their physical form, but the second the Flood create another Gravemind, its consciousness manifests in that one, still retaining all of its memories. [i]"Like water I ebb and flow. Defeat is simply an addition of time to a sentence I never deserved, but you imposed." -Gravemind, Halo, Halo 3[/i] I suggest to you this as well: The Hive are an individual species. They do not repurpose the dead or take control of their fallen enemies. The Flood do, and no species has biological immunity to them. The majority of Hive forces are composed of Thrall, who mindlessly charge at their opponents. That's literally free troops for the Flood. Eventually, the Flood would infect some Hive who knows how to operate their technology. The second that happens, you have Flood capable of understanding and utilizing Hive technology; including their magic.

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  • The hive dont take controll of fallen enemies thats true, they take live enemies and call them the taken. Opps. Thats gotta hurt. And graveminds are a thing but so is the hives worlds grave where they have a record of litterally everything

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  • [quote]The hive dont take controll of fallen enemies thats true, they take live enemies and call them the taken. Opps. Thats gotta hurt.[/quote]Not really. The Taken can only be created by Oryx, and don't spread viraly. They also can only be created on individuals that don't have light. If the Flood infected Guardians, then they would have an army immune to being taken. Then there's also the possibility the Flood learn how to imbue themselves with light. I will submit though that the Taken are the greatest threat to the Flood; but not their end. [quote]And graveminds are a thing but so is the hives worlds grave where they have a record of litterally everything[/quote]Bypassing the Bekenstein bound =/= having knowledge of everything. Let's theoretically say that you're claim is true. My counter argument would then be that the Hive are incredibly stupid for having a knowledge of everything, yet can't conquer a single city.

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