PVP= realkraftyy PVE= "the legend himself" sc slayerage Krafty is just more exciting to watch and always double carries. Kjhovey might be better but he isn't as fun to watch. When you are taking about the top 1% of the top 1% it all depends on the day. Krafty doesn't sweat like Hovey does in tourneys but I still think Krafty is unbeatable when he is on. Luminosity is tough too. PVE is hard to decide. Slayer does a lot of challenge modes etc.... you cannot really judge PVE on skill because nothing is super hard in PVE. You have to give it to the most creative. Slayer did a lot of solo raids and was one of the first to post a black spindle solo video. Edit: I have a playstation bias... war bulletproof, poshy, and Gabriel are all crazy good too.