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Grimoire = Experience, not skill.
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  • [quote]Grimoire = Experience, not skill.[/quote] And doesn't experience = practice, while practice = skill? Not all the time, but in most cases. Never been bad at something, then got better at it because you practiced?

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    Yes, but some newbies can beat the experienced players. Some people are just naturally better than others.

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  • Yes, hence why I said "in most cases" or the OP's "95% of the time." Most people seem to think in absolutes around here, even when the OP (and I) specifically said not in every case.

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    Yeah, I realize practice helps, but I think the raw skill is the determining factor in the end.

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  • Maybe in PvP. But the PvE raids? There is not much raw skill involved. Certain parts take a little more skill than others (being an under leveled sword bearer, or under leveled solo the gatekeepers), but the rest? You run over here, shoot this big guy, run over there, all the while not dying. Raids, in Destiny, are not about raw skill, but knowing the mechanics, what to do, where to go (and where not to so you don't die), etc. It's easier to measure the experience in a high grimoire person (measured in numbers which you can), than it is the raw skill in a low grimoire person (which is mostly measured in what they claim). From what I've encountered in all my time here, is it's about as uncommon to find a low level grimoire person who is great at a raid they haven't done or done often, as it is to find a high grimoire person who is bad at it (both are equally uncommon). Rather than take a random low level (who will more than likely be bad), it's easier to take the high level (who will more than likely be good). So that's why I think experience is the determining factor, not raw skill, in raids. All that's moot to me as I used to have a dedicated raid team and have a fairly active clan that I help inexperienced people through, rather than LFG. But if you still think that raw skill in low grimoire is more common than experience measured in high grimoire (again, we're talking those most cases, not the exception to the rule), well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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