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Edited by KingJaymz94: 2/22/2016 10:20:36 AM
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Does Grimoire = Skill (95%+ of the time)?

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Please explain your answer [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url] [b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760 NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b] If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill. [b] I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b] Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.- [quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote] And I posted this morning - [quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote] The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous. Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs? 54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock) 1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan) 51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter) All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either. It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet? Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost - Your grimoire score will increase if you : Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol Killed certain bosses in PvE Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner. Playing maps in Crucible for the first time. Playing events in the game, Finding ghost/frags exploring the game. All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP. Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time. [b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b] When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.

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  • So I'm now 4120, you wouldn't take me in your raid. I havent collected any ghosts apart from ones I found by accident. If I got all of them Id probably reach 4600 and I'd be skilled enough to raid with you. Sounds legit

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  • I would say medal score is a better indicator of skill. Anyone can have a high grimoire score as long as they play it enough.

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    Nah man I've been booted so many times because of my grimoire ;-; They're like it's not good enough It makes me sad :(

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    • There is a gray area. But if a kids is like 2000-3000 he's trash

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      • Grimoire=expirience but not necessarily skill.

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      • Mine is barely over 3000 as I am new to destiny on ps4 but I was yr one on Xbox and majority of the time the people who I raid with have a higher grimmore score yet they die continuously

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      • Grimoire means nothing. Its just a number that some people care about increasing after they have nothing left to do in the game. I've played with a lot of people and the majority that are above 4600 grimoire are complete morons. They are the same level of skill that a 1k grimoire has in a lot of cases.

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      • You have more grimour score than me and I get into a raid xD

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      • Considering that after about 4300 everything else is hunting the 50 fragments and ghost not really.

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      • Edited by Ve7n00m: 2/17/2016 8:44:44 AM
        My Grimoire is 4820, with 15-20 more points nearly achieved. I can run Relic on Templar, Gate keepers and Atheon flawlessly, I can be Sword bearer with ease (as a level 32) I can run Aura on Warpriest flawlessly, I can do 1 ord and 6 orb Strat on Golgoroth, I can do any job on Sisters and can beat Oryx with any Stratergy, I can kill my and the other Knight and still get back to the middle and not die. I have an above 1.0 on my characters in PVP (I know it's not great but I don't sweaty all the time) High Grimoire does infact mean a player has more skill than someone with low Grimoire (if those 2 players have the same amount of hours played)

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        • 4600 seems steep. Usually you can weed out to scrubs or less invested players by saying under 4k. 4600 is more like "I only want people who cared enough to google the ghost locations."

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          • just means you've put more time into the game. literally the biggest -blam!-ing noob on the planet can play this game for thousands of hours and achieve max grimoire, does it make him a good player? no

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          • Just means you've done more. It's like saying a guy in a company has worked there for 20 years is more competent than a guy who has been there for 2 years. By right that should be the case but I'm sure we all know examples otherwise.

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          • Edited by Gaddai: 2/17/2016 9:12:29 AM
            I have to agree with you there. A high grimore doesn't necessarily means skill, BUT 4600 is quite a lot and if reached that level most likely that person is at least competent. I consider myself able to hold myself in PVE/raid, don't make mistakes at all but I only have 4100. Edit: I don't understand why people will cuss you out on LFG though. If your standard is abnormally high or unrealistic then so be it, but no need to be rude about it.

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          • Tough question. The reason it isn't really reliable is that you can get grimoire in many ways, and if you want a high grimoire, you don't have to be skilled - you just have to collect a lot of ghosts.

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          • Grimoire doesn't mean jack

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              Mostly that is true! higher grimore, the more experience u have and the longer u are playing. = a certain skill (skill in PVE or PVP or Both)

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            • Edited by Dragoness: 2/17/2016 8:48:45 AM
              just because you played through the motions and obtained the grimoire does not mean skilled.it means you compleated the task no matter how horribly /good or min/hours to do it.

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            • Kinda. Shows experience but experience doesnt always equal skill exactly

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            • Ive had kinderguardians in my fire team that easily out played some of my vet friends in strikes many times over

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            • The people with higher grimoire usually have more time invested in the game and therefore are more familiar with the game and possibly more skilled.

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              • No. At least what I think. I made a quick shot on a dude at the beginning of a crucible match

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                • I have 4300 grimoire or so, and one of my 4700 grim friends told me my D game is his A game. So I'm either exceptionally good, or he's exceptionally bad, but either way I would not say 95%.

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                  • When I play with <4300 it generally takes forever.

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                  • I had an lfg team and we got through all three characters in less than two hours. Wish we had stayed together. Can't find a decent team these days.

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                  • Edited by DaWgPoUnD4TW: 2/17/2016 6:46:42 AM
                    TLDR but no it doesn't. Edit: I read it, makes sense I guess lol.

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