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Edited by KingJaymz94: 2/22/2016 10:20:36 AM
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Does Grimoire = Skill (95%+ of the time)?

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Please explain your answer [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url] [b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760 NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b] If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill. [b] I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b] Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.- [quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote] And I posted this morning - [quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote] The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous. Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs? 54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock) 1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan) 51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter) All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either. It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet? Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost - Your grimoire score will increase if you : Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol Killed certain bosses in PvE Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner. Playing maps in Crucible for the first time. Playing events in the game, Finding ghost/frags exploring the game. All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP. Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time. [b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b] When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.

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  • 4790 here and I agree.....my issue is cant be bothered to build a Hunter and a Titan for the new subclasses etc grim.

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  • Mmm what am i? A skilled pver? Or a scrub?

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  • What is the max grimiore score right now on ps4?

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    • I think it's funny how people think it's all about collecting ghosts when 3000+ of grimore isn't in ghosts.

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    • Edited by Zixuh: 2/17/2016 1:36:53 PM
      It all comes down to chance with me. I ran in 5 different raid groups before reset this tuesday 4 of which I was the lowest grimore score while others were in the 4200+. I'm not one for pointing fingers but lets just say I made little to no mistakes while they did and I'm talking noob mistakes. My last run however consisted of low grimore scores and we completed so smoothly with great communication. I agree to disagree I suppose.

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    • It helps to determine skill certainly.

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      • I don't care about grimouire I think I have 4400, don't know if It's high or low but I am skilled. 2.5kd in trials

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        • It's time spent imo, not skill.

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          • You can be elitist if you want to. Cuz you know, wasting time killing hydras and running around looking for ghosts really means you have skill. Ive been playing october 2014 and i still only have like 3585 grimoire. But you can do whatever you want man.

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            • Medal score proves more "skill" than grimoire imo

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            • I don't think looking for ghosts and searching for vip events for hours = skills

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              • Yep. High grimoire equal PVE skill for the most part and experience because you had to go through all of the year 1 content to get it. PVP skill on the other hand is another story. You can only get a limited amount of grimoire points in PVP, so there's that. 4600 is a fairly good amount of points for a pve focused player. 4800+ probably means he's grinded pvp too.

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                • If you have over 4800 grimoire, id say you're very knowledgable about the game. I'll accept people with over 3000 grimoire just because I know some people who don't care.

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                • Little bit yes, it means you took the time to actually play the game and find its secrets and it shows you played the game a after a set amount of time

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                • Yeah. But it depends [u]what[/u] grimoire it is. You can't ghost hunt and get a minority with everything else, get a 3,500+ grimoire and be all like "I have a 3,500 grimoire. I'm good at the game"... Cause you can't...

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                  • In some aspects you're correct.. However all three of your runs were pointlessly long. If you started fresh, whatever that's your own stupidity. We completed two runs last night from Totems all the way to the end beating challenge mode Oryx twice and we're done in a little over an hour.

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                  • Lmfao no. Nghtly is the best PvP player I've ever seen and he has, what, 3500?

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                  • Grimoire = Experience

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                  • Grimore defined online; 1;a spellbook: 2; a hunt for ghosts;3; something full of knowledge 2:[b][i][u]A hunt for ghosts![/u][/i][/b]

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                  • Well, if you want to put any weight into the skill argument. ... I reset my titan because I no longer wanted an exo male. Took my new 184 light striker into the clash playlist against basically 300's. 15 kills with around a 2.14 k/d. Boolean Gemini, half the skill tree filled, lvl 36. If I didn't have the acquired skills from playing a week after launch I would have been roasted. So even if my grimoire was low, still would have had the same outcome. Still plenty of things I haven't done in the game also. So much grimoire left to obtain, if im that interested.

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                  • No

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                  • The cards matter more than the score. (since you can have 0 raid completions and a high score) Just like the medals matter more than medal score. (since a ton of "back in actions" add up)

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                  • Grimoire is experience, not skill

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                    I'm ten points away from max .I need 10 rumble wins and 40 doubles. My k/d is low but climbing fast since I got a ben Q last week . Only worked on my warlocks k/d so far up to a 1.0 .it's rough when I had so many deaths in year one

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                  • Edited by SimonSaysGaming: 2/17/2016 11:58:14 AM
                    I'm at 77/100 for these rumble wins...

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                    • Edited by MexyMan31: 2/17/2016 12:12:32 PM
                      Yes, usually. A higher grimoire score means more experience. Which usually translates to better pve skill. I know this isn't 100% accurate!!! It's the same thing with medal score. If I need to judge someone's skill from a glance at their stats higher medal score people are usually ([b]not 100% of the time[/b]) are better. This is because if you have a lot of medal score, ie: in the millions, you obviously play pvp a lot. Then if you play pvp a lot you must probably enjoy it. And you enjoy it because you are a good player and do well in games.

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