You guys are arguing that ice breaker, invective, and side arm perks were designed to create a competitive advantage in crucible where special ammo does not start in your inventory. When these guns were created the PvP settings weren't as such. Arguing that this is how the design was intended is baseless. I have ZERO problem with the exploit. But to idiotically claim that's why the mechanics of these weapons were created is down right crazy. That would make it an exploit. <3 it's the definition. You can talk yourself in circles but if you step in a critical thinking class at a below average community college your logic would get shredded like your mom's ass in the 80's.