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The problem with sunbreakers is titan is the least played class in pvp, so when it arrived and it was OP, the non titans gave out about it, which was the vast majority. Now that it needs to be buffed there's not enough titans to be heard so it's not going to happen unfortunately. On launch it was OP, definitely needed an armour nerf, possibly a small AOE nerf but not to the extent of what the AOE is now, nothing else should've been touched but it was and it's pretty poor right now. doesn't matter to me really, i'm striker 95% of the time in PVP but it was nice to be able to switch over every now and then.
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  • Sunbreaker Titans are the most played class in PVP. https://guardian.gg/en

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  • That's old. Anyone who's playing Sunbreaker now is trying to revive this dead subclass.

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  • So everyone playing Sunbreaker is doing it for 'the cause'? And by the way, it's not a 'dead subclass' if the majority of players are using it...

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  • That's why the info is old. This [b][i][u]WAS[/u][/i][/b] the most used subclass. Every Y2 Titan used this class. The number dropped soon after the nerf because it's garbage compared to what it was.

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  • This is a stat tracking site, this means the information wasn't just collected once when the website owner was bored, it is continuously updated. Stop using anecdotal information like 'me and my friends never use Sunbreaker anymore' to support your point. Show me FACTS.

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  • http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population[spoiler]Can't check now; It's under maintenance.[/spoiler]

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  • Why are you quoting it if you don't even know what it says?

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  • Edited by Noftone: 2/9/2016 2:39:35 PM
    Because you don't seem to understand how data works. Most sites give you all the info up too the current state; Not just the current state. [-------------------------] All info. [ -] Today. See the picture?

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  • What are you talking about? You can see the site I've linked has up to date scoreboards for every playlist. I think you Cavan assume that its population statistics are also correct. All you've provided is a broken link. This conversation is over.

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  • You've yet to provide anything. I've at least tried.[spoiler]Quit trying to act like you know everything. You don't. Everything that you see on the Internet is an opinion. Get used to it.[/spoiler]

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  • It stops being opinion when you provide the details to support your argument. Just in case you missed it... https://guardian.gg/en Where's yours?

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  • This is still all info. All data here is from the TTK start. You are still failing to see the point.[spoiler]Let's try this with something that's really simple to follow. CRUCIBLE HISTORY; You have the option of [b]All time[/b], [b]Last 30 days[/b], and [b]Last 7 days[/b]. These websites only give you [b]All time[/b].[/spoiler]

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  • Yeah? Can you show me where it says all time? Or is this another thing you're just assuming?

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  • Alright. I just asked the Site manager on twitter. He says and I quote, "All information on the site has been collected since November 3rd 2015. Anything Crucible related can be found up until that point. We currently do not collect Subclass usage currently by days alone. All information regarded on Subclass usage is collective. Hope this helps!"

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  • Can you screenshot that Twitter post for me? Or link me to his Twitter?

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  • I use the app. How would I find/send the link? I haven't used Twitter or any other media site over a search engine.

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  • Take a screenshot on your phone? On an iPhone you press the power and home button at the same time. In any case, I don't understand what he's saying. He says subclass info isn't collected daily, so how often does he collect it?

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  • I don't know how often. But that's because people probably don't have stupid arguments about it all the time. [spoiler]I was referring to us. [b]We[/b] are stupid. Don't we have better things to do? I'd like to go do some rumble but I can't because I'm at work.[/spoiler]

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  • Let's just agree to disagree eh..

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  • Yes. This was starting to drag on. Fair well

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  • These stats cannot be correct, i rarely see sunbreakers and allot would agree

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  • Ok, your anecdotal evidence is definitely more compelling than actual stats. I concede.

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  • I wont believe the stats until its from Bungie himself sorry, I played this game non-stop since the alpha so I know what im talking about. Not only me but even PD agrees which says allot.

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  • I don't care what you believe. Sunbreakers have nothing to do with the alpha so I don't get what your point is. These are the facts, admit that you're wrong or don't. No one cares.

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  • Dont be biased, every Titan main knows Sunbreaker is suicidal when playing competitive.

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