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2/4/2016 1:18:35 AM
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Edit : I was not the only titan, There were two other people with defender so why did they need mine?
edit 2 : You can finish kingsfall withought a bubble, it just makes it easier for you with weapons of light.
edit 3 : you can not always depend on defender, You can do any raid withought a titan bubble. Like I said THERE WAS 2 TITANS, why can't they just pick them?[/quote]
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It basically comes down to some people wanting to complete a raid in as small a time as possible. Does it suck that he got kicked? Kinda But would the team be more guaranteed success with the extra player bringing that extra bit to the table? Absolutely Maybe these other guys are not that great and need the extra help, something op could not necessarily provide. Also, have fun killing oryx with no bubble with some lfg randoms, seriously, try to find five other people willing to do that on the forums. I know that that's not the point in his getting kicked, as yes, there were other Titans, but don't make a point which is utterly ridiculous.
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[quote]Bubbles are only needed for one strategy. It's just that lfg players are stuck on that one, simply because its the most forgiving. [/quote] Did you read all of this? Or just pieces? Like I said, if a group is requiring this stuff, they're the ones who are inherently bad. If one of the other titans (defenders) is bad enough that they can't handle the middle, why is the titan who doesn't even have defender the one getting kicked? A striker surviving on his plate and filling his role is just as useful as a Nightstalker doing the same thing. The person failing should be kicked for a replacement. Not someone who just coulda been the replacement but doesn't have it leveled. [b][i][u]Disclaimer:[/u][/i][/b] I never kick anyone. Even for being extremely bad. Example was to make a point.
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Yeah, I never kick anyone either, but I don't love bringing randoms I don't know through something that is legitimately quite difficult/frustrating with a lot of the groups you end up with on the forums. Not having defender upgraded screams inexperienced in pve, I personally wouldn't kick them, I agree you should give everyone a chance but if I wasn't leader and they got kicked I would probably be happier if we got a more experienced player so I can see where the kicker is coming from. I don't get why you're hung up on the bubble thing, we both agree it isn't the issue in this case, they had two defenders anyway, we both agree that it is possible without a bubble, but there is a certain expectation that for end game content there is a strategy that will come to the forefront and will be used as a standard to make sure that we don't have to spend half an hour discussing strategy before each fight every week.
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A different strategy is uncommon, and not gonna happen often if ever with an lfg group. I was simply giving reasons that the group is just as bad (if not worse) for needing more than 2 bubbles (one to be honest) than the op is by not having defender. For the 8&8 one titan with with blessing is all that is necessary in the middle. The other can be whatever class they want. (Both using mailice) Or one titan with weapons if they're slaying with a different weapon. Nobody deserves to be invited in and then kicked before even hitting the ground. Basically ever. I hope it's clear that I understand the reasoning. But anyone who cares that much about how quickly they finish, should care enough to have a team of six, and finish everything Tuesday morning.
