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2/1/2016 7:55:54 PM
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One hammer plus explosive Pyre can wipe a team and they respawn and he has 5 more hammers. It's rare but possible. Same with stormcaller
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  • God forbid i talk about REALISTIC scenarios, i guess. But hey, if you want to talk perfect circumstances, then the Stormtrance can still kill more. One Hammer is at least 1/7th energy. Plus wait time, having less duration than Stormtrance, you could wipe a team 4 times at BEST. Stormtrance? 1/8th due to chain lightning to kill a team. Wait time, with longer duration, and you could get 5-6 wipes. This is assuming, of course, that the entire team dies, respawns, and goes right back to the same place each time.

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    It's very uncommon was my point. Most times stormcaller gets 3 or 4 people. It's possible too get 10, but uncommon. Same with sunbreaker. Either way, I don't care. Transcendence is pretty bad as a perk

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  • Again, if you want to talk ideal circumstances, Sunbreaker is looking at 24. Stormtrance is looking at 30-36. Still not working in your favor.

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    You really don't see that stormtrance can get 10 kills under rare circumstances. You can't say that it is the only super that can get 10 kills when it's extremely rare and not the only super that can. I just wanted to point out how stupid that comment was. Again I don't care if transcendence is nerfed because it's a waste.

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  • If you're talking REALISTIC, what could ACTUALLY happen during a match, yes, is the only one that can get 10. Technically, IDEALLY, arc blade is unlimited. But REALISTICALLY, not even close. Only one of these terms actually matters, fella.

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    Realistically sunbreaker can. One hammer will wipe out a team if they're all grouped together. It happens with nova bomb and fist of havoc occasionally like on heavy or the spark in rift.

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  • Okay, so apparently, you're just not reading my replies. I've already covered the ideal numbers for both. You can't try to apply ideal circumstances to Sunbreaker so it matches less than ideal circumstances for Stormtrance. You have to compare them the same way. Stormtrance will win the max kill count. Period.

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    That's great, good for stormtrance. Didn't say anything about that but okay. I only said it's not the only super that can get 10 kills. Stir.trance getting that many is extremely rare, but possible, same with hammer.

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  • And, to no surprise, you still can't figure it out. I'll save you the embarrassment. Muted.

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    You don't seem to see what he is saying either.

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  • Sure I do. He can't comprehend that I'm taking about realistic circumstances. He's talking about, "well, under the right circumstances... Blah blah blah." Yeah, under those ideal circumstances, Stormtrance is still capable of more. I'm talking about real, fairly common, not relying on some insane amount of luck, every 6v6 playlist capabilities. There's no competition to Stormtrance in reality.

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  • You brought up "realisticly" like 9 times just now.. Tell how often do you see a ten piece? Wierd... but because its possible its jow the most OP.

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  • How about a 9 piece with 2-3 seconds of the super wasted and no landfall used? That close enough?

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    Except it's uncommon. Most players don't know how to predict spawns or die while trying to get that many.

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