This is not a debate you stupid moron.. there was no debate ever. If you assumed we were debating you are a MORON of the nth degree. Not every conversation falls within the rules of debate you stupid git. Not every disagreement is a debate where one side has to prove the other wrong you dimwitted fool. It is you that is immature if you think otherwise. this is not some stupid silly college or highschool debate class. so again you proved yourself to be a moron.