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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • Quick question, did I not see almost everyone in the forums ask for skill based match making before they were told that that is exactly what is happening? Now it is an issue? No one wants to start a petition for the craptastic servers? Really?

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    • Signed. [i]Drives back to off topic, hoping no one notices him here.[/i]

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    • I want them to keep it around as a seperate playlist. I honestly enjoy it aside from the lag. Ive gotten so much better than I used to be

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    • Edited by MindEntropy: 1/25/2016 5:49:31 PM
      Fact is if you barely touched the crucible and log into a match you deserve to be crushed. End of story. This is bungies way of giving everyone a trophy and to keep any taken King/Xmas newbs. But these kids will never get better. And besides...if you have a pulse and your teammates weren't flat out trash...how hard is it to do okay in the crucible? Not very hard. Now every game is a lag fest with no weapon variety. Bungie nerfs everything but if they simply went to cbmm the crys for nerfs won't be as strong because there would be more weapon variety. The nerf crys always start with the scrubs and anyone from the above average to the superstar all suffer. Bungie needs to stop catering to scrubs. I'm not saying some guns didn't need nerfs, they certainly did. I bet if you watched the next scrub crying for a sniper nerfed they went warrior shotgun into a sniper lane from long range, causing no flinch and exposing themself.

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    • I myself don't play too much crucible, unless I am playing Iron Banner. I have even considered going into the Trials of Osiris, but with all the lag and everything I have been experiencing the few times I have gone into the Crucible, I think I will be waiting even longer to try it. Why? Its simple; I don't want my first experience in Trials of Osiris to be ruined by some really buggy or laggy games due to the horrible connections I could be paired with from around the world. I enjoy PVP in shooter. I really do. I played a lot of Halo, and Battle field, CS:GO, and plenty of other shooters among other types of games. In ANY game that is laggy simply because the servers are set up in a bad way, I won't be playing it. So sadly, as much as I want to get into crucible and get accustomed to it, I wont be able to. Yeah, I am no where near a pro type player, but I at least want to enjoy my time in a game. If I am beat, I want to be able to see that I was clearly out classed. Not shot by someone from the other side of the map because the servers are trying to compensate for the drastic latency differences.

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    • Signed

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    • signed

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    • Yes

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    • Replace SBMM with CBMM. Signed. Bump.

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    • Agreed and signed. The other problem is that weapons that get nerfed and buffed for PVP reasons have terrible consequences in PVE, when there should be no consequences in PVE. PVP and PVE are two totally different game modes that should have no effect on each other. If Bungie wants to nerf MIDA in PVP because too many people are dependent on it that's ok, so long as PVP still get to use it in its original state. Why should PVE players suffer when PVP players want to see a problem addressed in their gamemode?

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      • Edited by Sidhharthad: 1/25/2016 5:42:17 PM
        SIGNED There's no reward for getting better. You just get equally hard matches over and over and over again until the lag is so bad you have to be aces to win because it takes piles of ammo to kill the laggers. The point of pvp is to play and learn and have fun. You got smoked last match? Figure out what tactic you were doing wrong or using incorrectly and work on fixing it. Yeah sometimes people get blown out of the water because one team has pvp veterans on it. But then again sometimes it might just be fun and without the lag problems people will see what is actually happening and learn to play better, rather than learning to use the lag or how to beat the lag. Mutha-F'in SIGNED

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        • signed

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        • Signed get rid of the lag

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        • Signed

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        • Signed! Mostly in mockery to the Destiny community.

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        • YES PLEASE !!!

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        • Amen, this is such a joke. The fact that bungie lied about it makes it even worse. Management at this company is so amateur.

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        • Signed. Get rid of it

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        • Edited by Tentacle: 1/25/2016 5:32:43 PM
          If it's down to SBMM or not, somethings changed in crucible. The games feel unbalanced and as soon as you see the red bar you know they are going to have an advantage. It feels now like people with poor connections shoot you before you even see them. I don't think the other teams even now they are teleporting around and not taking damage which makes the report function even more destructive. Whatever they did, they broke it round about the last update and refuse to do anything or acknowledge it. Perhaps they are still on holiday or too busy with new projects but nobody knows. If they don't care enough to communicate the game is dead. Today out of ten pages of regular players with 1000s of hours like me, I saw 1 person from my list online playing destiny. Is Bungie working hard to fix it? Who knows but the silence suggests not. It has become the thing they have worked so hard to avoid.

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        • Yes signed

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        • Voted and bump!!!

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