You are right they do deserve the same experience I had with KingsFall. Grind your butt off until you are appropriate light level to finish the raid, watch YouTube videos on how to do it & don't expect to get carried work for your loot! I help people week after week & I love helping those that want to learn & actually do very well by helping their teammates & doing their part. But when you have that one guardian that contributes nothing to the team, dies constantly & when you try to help the Guardian so you explain it to him or ways that it will benefit him yet he doesn't listen to you & continues to die or does nothing just wants to get carried then yeah I would boot him. One thing is to help another is to carry.