Yep. I actually just started leveling my hunter and titan, both have been untouched since the taken king came out, and I went back, had all most my VOG, crota and various crucible and vanguard gear, most of it was terrible in pvp, definitely didn't do the trick like they used to, the nerfs hit then pretty hard
Oh I thought that was while point of them. Idk, I only went flawless the second week trials came out, got an adept jewel of Osiris. Well if that's the case, vision of confluence pre nerf, even over fatebringer
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